Haircut boy gets $24k costs

[jonbuoy]

Nope - but it does sound like you hate them. I'm putting you down as a "self taught man"?
Which is fine - if you're not biased.

Me I have nothing against teachers (with the exception of pay - but I have that issue with everyone). Variety is the spice of life and all that.

Now what part didn't make sense - not that it matters, as its very clear you won't listen to anyone telling your anything. But for shits and giggles - where did you fail to comprehend?

I dont "hate" them - I had a couple of great teachers. I have issues with a lot of the irrelevant/useless rules and subject matter kids are taught at school that leaves them unprepared for real life.

I just don't get your whole "pants" comparison - he wasnt running around naked. Long hair short hair as long as he doesnt disrupt the class it makes no difference.

[awayatc]

What exactly do we expect schools to teach.....?

for youngsters to think for themselves and make decisions...(potentially becoming an innovator)

or just to shut up, listen and obey any and every rule .......? (Becoming a bureaucrat, or traffic cop )

[avgas]

What exactly do we expect schools to teach.....?

for youngsters to think for themselves and make decisions...(potentially becoming an innovator)

or just to shut up, listen and obey any and every rule .......? (Becoming a bureaucrat, or traffic cop )

Hopefully something in-between. So they turn up to work on time, listen to their boss, and generally contribute intelligent, well processed thoughts to society.
I have worked with the "pure free thinkers" before and when they did turn up to work, their workmanship was bullshit like most of their "ideas".
Sure we need thinking "out of the box" on occasion. But every now and then people need to shut-up and listen to someone bigger and uglier than them - if for nothing else, but to be inspired to innovate.

I dont "hate" them - I had a couple of great teachers. I have issues with a lot of the irrelevant/useless rules and subject matter kids are taught at school that leaves them unprepared for real life.
I just don't get your whole "pants" comparison - he wasnt running around naked. Long hair short hair as long as he doesnt disrupt the class it makes no difference.

You say that - but do you think for a moment that you have been desensitized?
Past generations would have laid peer pressure on the "Ladyboy" - but now we are PC so with the kids unable to do it, it falls back to "School Rules".

A uniform is a simple code. Like wearing pants. The difference is it is actually written. Yet there are plenty of places that are in fact "anti-pants".
If a kid can't follow a simple set of rules that a particular body requires (for whatever frivolous reason they hold), and would jeopardize their education to break this rule. Then I have no hope for him in the rest of his life.
Is his stand really important? I would argue that if the rule is considered pointless, then why isn't breaking it?
20 years from now - I hope his hair is still long. So he makes a point. That it wasn't all for nothing.
Otherwise - it - was - all - for - nothing.

[mashman]

I dont "hate" them - I had a couple of great teachers. I have issues with a lot of the irrelevant/useless rules and subject matter kids are taught at school that leaves them unprepared for real life.

I just don't get your whole "pants" comparison - he wasnt running around naked. Long hair short hair as long as he doesnt disrupt the class it makes no difference.

Agreed... I believe the argument against that is that students should have more respect for what they are at school to do, learn... and by default those who are teaching.

Some cultures walk around naked... although I believe the moral of the story was, WTF does the length of hair (or pants) have to do with absolutely anything educationally related? As you say, the subject matter is boring and bored kids getz "disruptive". Those who give hair length a significance should be held to account. Starting with the govt as they haven't banned those who pedal their vile hair length propaganda... then on to marketing and advertising

[mashman]

If a kid can't follow a simple set of rules that a particular body requires (for whatever frivolous reason they hold), and would jeopardize their education to break this rule. Then I have no hope for him in the rest of his life.

20 years from now - I hope his hair is still long. So he makes a point. That it wasn't all for nothing.
Otherwise - it - was - all - for - nothing.

I do ... innovator in the making

In my case, I ended up growing my hair to the middle of my back before noticing the Phil Collins affect on a security camera, and then heading home for a bath and a pair of scissors. But it wasn't all for nothing .

[jonbuoy]

Hopefully something in-between. So they turn up to work on time, listen to their boss, and generally contribute intelligent, well processed thoughts to society.
I have worked with the "pure free thinkers" before and when they did turn up to work, their workmanship was bullshit like most of their "ideas".
Sure we need thinking "out of the box" on occasion. But every now and then people need to shut-up and listen to someone bigger and uglier than them - if for nothing else, but to be inspired to innovate.


You say that - but do you think for a moment that you have been desensitized?
Past generations would have laid peer pressure on the "Ladyboy" - but now we are PC so with the kids unable to do it, it falls back to "School Rules".

A uniform is a simple code. Like wearing pants. The difference is it is actually written. Yet there are plenty of places that are in fact "anti-pants".
If a kid can't follow a simple set of rules that a particular body requires (for whatever frivolous reason they hold), and would jeopardize their education to break this rule. Then I have no hope for him in the rest of his life.
Is his stand really important? I would argue that if the rule is considered pointless, then why isn't breaking it?
20 years from now - I hope his hair is still long. So he makes a point. That it wasn't all for nothing.
Otherwise - it - was - all - for - nothing.

A set of rules laid out by other people which serve no purpose. I guess the same could be said for gay/lesbians back in the day - conform to peer/institutional pressure. Thank god we have moved on from those times.

You seem to have been brainwashed into thinking long hair means undisciplined - I would rather live and work with long haired hippies than skin head biggots.

The education system should try and keep up if not stay ahead of modern forward thinking beliefs- not be stuck in the dark ages.

I wouldnt send my kids to a school that was so hung up on teaching about the big boogie man in the sky anyway.

[swbarnett]

That explains a lot: you're a Stonecutter!

You'll have to explain that to me. The video has been deleted.

[swbarnett]

If a kid can't follow a simple set of rules that a particular body requires (for whatever frivolous reason they hold)

This is where you're going wrong. He was following the rule as it was written. It was the new principle that read something in the rule that simply doesn't exist.

[unstuck]

You'll have to explain that to me. The video has been deleted.

Stonecutters is a reference to an episode of The simpsons, where Homer joins a secret society. Basically a pisstake of the freemasons I think.

[swbarnett]

Stonecutters is a reference to an episode of The simpsons, where Homer joins a secret society. Basically a pisstake of the freemasons I think.

Yeah, I know the one. Can't quite see the relevance though.

[unstuck]

Yeah, I know the one. Can't quite see the relevance though.

Tis KB, does there have to be any sort of relevance?

[swbarnett]

Tis KB, does there have to be any sort of relevance?

Excellent point. I am definitely guilty of taking KB far too seriously at times.

[Maki]

As far as I am concerned the headmaster should pay the money out of his own pocket for being an intractable and unreasonable twat, and a poor example to all and sundry. Good on those who stand up to poorly formulated and arbitrarily enforced rules. If there was more of them we would all be a whole lot better off and there would be less nonsense going on in the world such as wars, etc.