Timing retard eliminators?

[Monty69]

Just bought my 2nd sv650s, 2012 model only 1800 kms.
Suzuki put a yoshi pipe on it for free when i bought it, so it sounds good.
But im told the sv (and many otherbikes) have timing retard in the first
3 gears... i assume the factories have good reason for this but when the
brochure says a bike has a certain horsepower, you would expect that
horsepower in everygear...
My old sv650 pulled wheelstands easy enough but i thought with my new
one id treat it to a T.R.E..... timing retard eliminator. Sounds like
its a fairly common mod. Whos put one on their bike?
Anyone know where to buy them and who in chch is recommended
for fitting such things, possibly a power commander in the near future too...
cheers

[98tls]

Ebay or simply make one for around $10.Theres probably some on our Trademe but they will cost far more and take far longer to arrive than if you buy one os.Timing is affected in 4 or 5th depending on model from memory,theres 2 types get the so called "smart TRE" and your idle is uneffected.Just as cheap ie bang for buck is a 1/5th throttle insert...have fun, awesome bikes.Edit..you dont need anyone to fit it mate you simply plug it in.

[tigertim20]

jump on an sv forum. TRE's are easy to make, theres be a relevant thread on an SV forum for how to do it to your bike for a couple bucks. My gsxr was easy as to do it to. cost under $10 and took about 15 minutes.

or buy something off ebay for $75+

[BuzzardNZ]

I put one on mine. Made a slight difference.

[Erelyes]

If you really wanna spend money you can get a GiPro +ATRE which is a gear indicator and advanced TRE in one. About $200 tho. Plug and play AFAIK

[BuzzardNZ]

If you really wanna spend money you can get a GiPro +ATRE which is a gear indicator and advanced TRE in one. About $200 tho. Plug and play AFAIK

That's what I have on mine, although I'm pretty sure it wasn't that expensive.

You'd be better off getting a dyno tune and a TEKA re-map with BMC air filter and desnorkel. Those mod gave me the best gains. IMO TRE is not worth it.

[tigertim20]

If you really wanna spend money you can get a GiPro +ATRE which is a gear indicator and advanced TRE in one. About $200 tho. Plug and play AFAIK

some one has been doing some research . . .

[Kickaha]

We really just need a retard eliminator although that would probably drop site membership by at least 60%

[caspernz]

We really just need a retard eliminator although that would probably drop site membership by at least 60%

How about you just kick off a survey so I can work out which side of the fence I'd end up on?

[caspernz]

Yeah there was a time when I considered a TRE...but then I just bought a faster bike

[98tls]

some one has been doing some research . . .

$200 sure seems a lot to tell you what gear your inWhy would you not know theres not that many of em all things said n done.

[98tls]

That's what I have on mine, although I'm pretty sure it wasn't that expensive.

You'd be better off getting a dyno tune and a TEKA re-map with BMC air filter and desnorkel. Those mod gave me the best gains. IMO TRE is not worth it.

Fuck its not my money so why not get serious and bin the stock rims/full system and the stuff you suggested.Fwiw binning the oem rims made the most difference to any motorcycle ive ever owned.

[BuzzardNZ]

I've got a problem with my gipro atre ( http://www.healtech-electronics.com/products/atre/ )

It has power but the gear indicator stopped working, it always shows neutral.

I think the TRE kicks in based on what it gear it thinks it's in, so I suspect the TRE is not working either.

This was working fine previously, and I've reset it but still no good.

Any ideas?

[imdying]

when the brochure says a bike has a certain horsepower, you would expect that horsepower in everygear.

It does, use full throttle, the timing retard isn't active when you do.