View Poll Results: Who are you voting for?

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  • National

    46 37.70%
  • Labour

    16 13.11%
  • Green

    20 16.39%
  • New Zealand First

    20 16.39%
  • Maori Party

    5 4.10%
  • Act

    6 4.92%
  • Mana/Internet/ Dot com

    13 10.66%
  • United Future

    2 1.64%
  • I'm a communist or to lazy get of my arse and too dumb to vote option.

    11 9.02%
  • Conservatives

    5 4.10%
  • Party outside of Parliament (Alliance, Cannabis, Conservatives, Focus, Democrats)

    9 7.38%
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Thread: Elections are coming up. What are we thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    So all you have done is replaced having or how'd you like to treat your children with motorcycles?
    Nah. I don't yell at my motorcycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    Only a fool will not admit to being one
    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Nah. I don't yell at my motorcycles.
    But you do have someone to yell it right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    Worth repeating

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    No it's not, it's a piece of blatant bullshit aimed at promoting envy and division.

    If you reckon there's an inverse relationship between the quantity of millionaires in a country and the prevalence of squalor and unemployment then you're kidding yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yokel View Post
    But you do have someone to yell it right?
    Two lads.
    They don't listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    No it's not, it's a piece of blatant bullshit aimed at promoting envy and division.

    If you reckon there's an inverse relationship between the quantity of millionaires in a country and the prevalence of squalor and unemployment then you're kidding yourself.
    King Dick would cause these nupties to wet their breeches.
    He was great supporter of the Empire.
    He wanted to annex Fiji (and did grab the Cook Islands).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    No it's not, it's a piece of blatant bullshit aimed at promoting envy and division.

    If you reckon there's an inverse relationship between the quantity of millionaires in a country and the prevalence of squalor and unemployment then you're kidding yourself.
    The area of the world with the highest number of billionaires would tend to support his arguement.
    The NZ experience would as well.
    Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin.
    One prefers to use its head, while the other relies on tales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Oh yeah, the Greens.
    Coz they got a majority in Parliment...
    It was a Greens bill introduced by Jonkey as a part of the agreement between the Greens and the Nats for support on votes of confidence and supply.
    You don't really think Jonkey could come up with anything like that do you. Part of his working for NZ> Yeah Right.
    One of only two bills he had ever introduced to the house. The other was the tax cuts.
    Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin.
    One prefers to use its head, while the other relies on tales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinny View Post
    The area of the world with the highest number of billionaires would tend to support his arguement.
    The NZ experience would as well.
    Codswallop.

    Any country with a comparatively large number of millionaires has higher living standards and employment than one with fuck all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinny View Post
    It was a Greens bill introduced by Jonkey as a part of the agreement between the Greens and the Nats for support on votes of confidence and supply.
    You don't really think Jonkey could come up with anything like that do you. Part of his working for NZ> Yeah Right.
    One of only two bills he had ever introduced to the house. The other was the tax cuts.
    Wrong again.

    It was proposed by Key at the 2009 Jobs Summit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    No it's not, it's a piece of blatant bullshit aimed at promoting envy and division.

    If you reckon there's an inverse relationship between the quantity of millionaires in a country and the prevalence of squalor and unemployment then you're kidding yourself.
    Not even sure if you understand what you have written

    Sounds good when you read it out aloud though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Codswallop.

    Any country with a comparatively large number of millionaires has higher living standards and employment than one with fuck all.
    Would have agreed with you 20 years ago
    Political Correctness, the chief weapon of whiney arse bastards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Codswallop.

    Any country with a comparatively large number of millionaires has higher living standards and employment than one with fuck all.
    Like ...the USA.....with the largest collection of wealth in the fewest hands since the 1890's

    Quote Originally Posted by PCR
    .........America’s great cities, such as Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis have lost between one-fifth and one-quarter of their populations. Real median family income has been declining for years, an indication that the ladders of upward mobility that made America the “opportunity society” have been dismantled. Last April, the National Employment Law Project reported that real median household income fell 10% between 2007 and 2012.

    Republicans have a tendency to blame the victims. Before one asks, “what’s the problem? America is the richest country on earth; even the American poor have TV sets, and they can buy a used car for $2,000,” consider the recently released report from the Federal Reserve that two-thirds of American households are unable to raise $400 cash without selling possessions or borrowing from family and friends.


    Although you would never know it from the reports from the US financial press, the poor job prospects that Americans face now rival those of India 30 years ago. American university graduates are employed, if they are employed, not as software engineers and managers but as waitresses and bartenders. They do not make enough to have an independent existence and live at home with their parents. Half of those with student loans cannot service them. Eighteen percent are either in collection or behind in their payments. Another 34% have student loans in deferment or forbearance. Clearly, education was not the answer.


    Jobs off-shoring, by lowering labor costs and increasing corporate profits, has enriched corporate executives and large shareholders, but the loss of millions of well-paying jobs has made millions of Americans downwardly mobile. In addition, jobs off-shoring has destroyed the growth in consumer demand on which the US economy depends with the result that the economy cannot create enough jobs to keep up with the growth of the labor force.


    Between October 2008 and July 2014 the working age population grew by 13.4 million persons, but the US labor force grew by only 1.1 million. In other words, the unemployment rate among the increase in the working age population during the past six years is 91.8%.


    Since the year 2000, the lack of jobs has caused the labor force participation rate to fall, and since quantitative easing began in 2008, the decline in the labor force participation rate has accelerated.


    Clearly there is no economic recovery when participation in the labor force collapses.


    Right-wing ideologues will say that the labor force participation rate is down because abundant welfare makes it possible for people not to work. This is nonsensical. During this period food stamps have twice been reduced, unemployed benefits were cut back as were a variety of social services. Being on welfare in America today is an extreme hardship. Moreover, there are no jobs going begging
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    The graph shows the collapse in the labor force participation rate. The few small peaks above the 65% participation rate line show the few periods when the economy produced enough jobs to keep up with the working age population. The massive peaks below the line indicate the periods in which the dearth of jobs resulted in Americans giving up looking for non-existent jobs and thus ceased being counted in the labor force. The 6.2% US unemployment rate is misleading as it excludes discouraged workers who have given up and left the labor force because there are no jobs to be found.

    John Williams of Shadowstats.com calculates the true US unemployment rate to be 23.2%, a number consistent with the collapse of the US labor force participation rate.


    In the ten years since Roberts and Schumer sounded the alarm, the US has become a country in which the norm for new jobs has become lowly paid part-time employment in domestic non-tradable services. Two-thirds of the population is living on the edge unable to raise $400 cash. The savings of the population are being drawn down to support life. Corporations are borrowing money not to invest for the future but to buy back their own stocks, thus pushing up share prices, CEO bonuses, and corporate debt. The growth in the income and wealth of the one percent comes from looting, not from productive economic activity.


    This is the profile of a Third World country.
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    ^^^

    Don't expect a proper response that refutes those stats... other than "people don't know how lucky they are" "socialists" "want to take all my property" "everyone but me = bludger"


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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    ^^^

    Don't expect a proper response that refutes those stats... other than "people don't know how lucky they are" "socialists" "want to take all my property" "everyone but me = bludger"

    Glad to know that you're the classic leftwing stereotype who just knows what everyone else is thinking.
    I'm surprised you didn't get Cullen's "rich prick" comments in there somewhere.

    Ps. It's the US, not NZ - they are dif. countries you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Glad to know that you're the classic leftwing stereotype who just knows what everyone else is thinking.
    I'm surprised you didn't get Cullen's "rich prick" comments in there somewhere.
    Proves my point.

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