Elections are coming up. What are we thinking?

**mashman** · 16th August 2014, 18:32

Originally Posted by bogan

And just as the 99.99% disagree with you, democracy works.

Was beginning to lose faith in it a bit given the current crop of political candidates, but since you've explained just how much worse it could be, my faith is mostly restored

Change always starts somewhere. Soon your vote will count irrespective of how you cast it. I care not who you vote for. I am relying on democracy, something you seem to think I'm not.

Then you have allowed me to influence your judgement. How disappointing.

**bogan** · 16th August 2014, 18:53

Originally Posted by mashman

Change always starts somewhere. Soon your vote will count irrespective of how you cast it. I care not who you vote for. I am relying on democracy, something you seem to think I'm not.

Then you have allowed me to influence your judgement. How disappointing.

Ahh, democracy you may rely on, but with 0.01% in your favor, logic is not your strong suit.

Not really, all open minded people allow others to influence their judgment, perhaps you should try it.

**mashman** · 16th August 2014, 19:02

Originally Posted by bogan

Ahh, democracy you may rely on, but with 0.01% in your favor, logic is not your strong suit.

Not really, all open minded people allow others to influence their judgment, perhaps you should try it.

As I said. This is just the beginning. You're welcome to your conclusion.

No they don't. Open minded people ONLY allow their own judgement to influence them. Perhaps you should try it.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're done.

**Brian d marge** · 16th August 2014, 19:07

A really big change comes from lots of people doing little things
Like giving to your neighbours . . . I do . . And they keep me in veges all season

Fk knows what i will do with all these potatoes

Then in a simple clear question and statement send a letter . .freepost , . To your mp

In fact all the mps

Then reduce your exposure to the man as much as possible

And say no to all theirmad schemes

Stephen

**bogan** · 16th August 2014, 19:08

Originally Posted by mashman

As I said. This is just the beginning. You're welcome to your conclusion.

No they don't. Open minded people ONLY allow their own judgement to influence them. Perhaps you should try it.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're done.

Reading not your strong suit either it seems, my judgment of other things is what influences me, and it has judged you wanting, again (and in multiple senses of the word).

**mashman** · 16th August 2014, 19:19

Originally Posted by bogan

Reading not your strong suit either it seems, my judgment of other things is what influences me, and it has judged you wanting, again (and in multiple senses of the word).

I know.....

**Swoop** · 16th August 2014, 19:19

Originally Posted by Hinny

He has as much credibility as the Sunday Times I would venture .

You cannot trust a word that comes out of his mouth, let alone what he writes or "permits" to be written.

In the UK, Morgan worked as a writer and editor for several British tabloids, including The Sun, News of the World and the Daily Mirror. In November 2012, he was heavily criticised in the official findings of the Leveson Inquiry, when Lord Leveson stated that comments made in Morgan's testimony about phone hacking were "utterly unpersuasive" and "clearly prove ... that he was aware that it was taking place in the press as a whole and that he was sufficiently unembarrassed by what was criminal behaviour that he was prepared to joke about it".

He is more suited to being a judge of a talent show than a source of reliable, intelligent facts. An intellectual researcher, he is not.

**blue rider** · 18th August 2014, 08:56

not thinking anything anymore really

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11310252

But if tomorrow's Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update no longer forecasts a surplus for the current year, the financial markets and rating agencies will not care, Bagrie said.

"Does it really matter if the balance is $400 million in the black or $400 million in the red?" he said.

"If they are a year out [in returning to surplus] then so be it. Step back and look at the big turnaround we have seen."

also this
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/pr...ster-and-staff

Team Key
Fucka Yeah

**buggerit** · 18th August 2014, 09:08

Planet Key?

**oldrider** · 18th August 2014, 10:51

Originally Posted by buggerit

Planet Key?

Yes indeed "PLANET KEY" is absolutely "DOWN to EARTH" and all will be revealed post election and MMP lolly scramble, when a government is finally formed!