Elections are coming up. What are we thinking?

[Ocean1]

It is increasingly seeming the case that National have realised they cannot present a credible proposition, and are changing tack to discredit everyone else instead.

They don't have to present anything but the results of their current policies and their history of doing in office what they said they would before elected, it's up to the opposition to propose believable alternatives AND show who's going to be expected to pay for them.

[SPman]

Labour tried that. Then found that the figures National had quoted were, errmm, 'misleading'. Key then jumped on National saying they couldn't do sums.

Another thing on TV this morning. Labour & National bods being interviewed. And the same modus operandi. Labour seem to be trying to present something, while National continually cite 'ridiculous', 'rubbish', 'not the case', 'not possible' and so on.

It is increasingly seeming the case that National have realised they cannot present a credible proposition, and are changing tack to discredit everyone else instead. They'll settle for getting in on a 'best of a bad lot' ticket, rather than actually offering any solutions.

National - a policy free zone these elections - if you don't say you'll do anything, when you get back in you can do whatever you like ander the "we didn't say we wouldn't do it" line.........
Can someone call a special sitting of parliament, then nuke the beehive when they're all in there? There'll be some "collateral damage", but, it's only Wellington.........

[oneblackflag]

A bunch of fucking wacko's if you ask me... http://stuff.co.nz/national/politics...s-suicide-link

Yep thats pretty fucked up.

[gjm]

Yep thats pretty fucked up.

Pff... That's nuffin.

National reckon the TPPA is in the best intersts of the man on the street.

[HenryDorsetCase]

They don't have to present anything but the results of their current policies and their history of doing in office what they said they would before elected, it's up to the opposition to propose believable alternatives AND show who's going to be expected to pay for them.

My friends Russ Le Communista and his lovely Maori wife Metiria are doing just that. Its only you capitalist pigs that earn over $15 an hour that will pay. For the rest of us its FREE MONEY.

[Brian d marge]

Pff... That's nuffin.

National reckon the TPPA is in the best intersts of the man on the street.

And labour will do the same

Strange that

[gjm]

And labour will do the same

Strange that

Sadly, that's probably right. And it's an example of how the party 'in power' doesn't actually get much say in long term policy - it's often decided behind the scenes.

The thing which really pisses me off (and this is a generalisation - not party-specific) is the apparent inability of anyone to learn from the mistakes of others. So many things that have so monumentally failed in other countries are now being touted as the way forward over here. Does no-one in government actually see the mess some of these things is going to make, or is it all about the 3-year plan?

[Ocean1]

My friends Russ Le Communista and his lovely Maori wife Metiria are doing just that. Its only you capitalist pigs that earn over $15 an hour that will pay. For the rest of us its FREE MONEY.

I've already had preliminary talks with my core clients about apportioning at least part of my usual remuneration as a special profit share arrangement. Well, the more important ones.

The brewery was particularly interested, although I've hit some resistance at 3 dozen an hour...

[Brian d marge]

I've already had preliminary talks with my core clients about apportioning at least part of my usual remuneration as a special profit share arrangement. Well, the more important ones.

The brewery was particularly interested, although I've hit some resistance at 3 dozen an hour...

The tax on that would be ..... If ya had stuck to mashys system .. you could have kept the 3 dozen

Stephen

[awa355]

Looks like the Internet party is starting to unravell from within already.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...sk-over-Dotcom

[SPman]

The thing which really pisses me off (and this is a generalisation - not party-specific) is the apparent inability of anyone to learn from the mistakes of others. So many things that have so monumentally failed in other countries are now being touted as the way forward over here. Does no-one in government actually see the mess some of these things is going to make, or is it all about the 3-year plan?

In NZ, it seems to be part of the "3 yrs behind everyone else" plan..........It's been that way for decades.

[oldrider]

In NZ, it seems to be part of the "3 yrs behind everyone else" plan..........It's been that way for decades.

He who pays the piper calls the tune ... the whole world is in debt so who's tune are they piping to and why?

[mashman]

He who pays the piper calls the tune ... the whole world is in debt so who's tune are they piping to and why?

Likely massively "underestimated", but

Global Debt Exceeds $100 Trillion as Governments Binge, BIS Says

that it's the govt that's doing all the borrowing. We've got a surplus innit .

"The $30 trillion increase from $70 trillion between mid-2007 and mid-2013 compares with a $3.86 trillion decline in the value of equities to $53.8 trillion in the same period, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.".

I'm guessing we borrowed it from aliems.

[Brian d marge]

classic

[Brian d marge]

Likely massively "underestimated", but

Global Debt Exceeds $100 Trillion as Governments Binge, BIS Says

that it's the govt that's doing all the borrowing. We've got a surplus innit .

"The $30 trillion increase from $70 trillion between mid-2007 and mid-2013 compares with a $3.86 trillion decline in the value of equities to $53.8 trillion in the same period, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.".

I'm guessing we borrowed it from aliems.

its interesting how they could pump money into the economy with out inflation going skywards , and the suppression of the bond rates. Dodgy dealings done dirt cheap hahahahahahaaaa

Stephen