Elections are coming up. What are we thinking?

[bogan]

People with no money can't buy goods and services .. trade diminishes, shops close, people are out of work!

Subsidise by paying beneficiaries funds to enable consumption ... it helps more than just the beneficiaries themselves .. it helps business, trade, employment, etc!

We are all therefore benificiaries by default but it is easier to blame the bottom feeders than to accept some responsibility ourselves!

Or we could just light lots of things on fire and employ more firefighters...

Consumption just for consumptions sake is not a good thing.

[mashman]

I'm not stupid enough to argue with people with guns.

Pussy....... anyhoo, who's got guns? It's only taxation.

[yokel]

Or we could just light lots of things on fire and employ more firefighters...

Consumption just for consumptions sake is not a good thing.

Dam straight, turn off the benefits let the economy that's built on a foundation of bullshit collapse and start again

[oldrider]

Or we could just light lots of things on fire and employ more firefighters...

Consumption just for consumptions sake is not a good thing.

Like nature did for us in Christchurch?

Dam straight, turn off the benefits let the economy that's built on a foundation of bullshit collapse and start again

True and while I agree in principle history from Christchurch has shown us that the left leaners walk backwards to Christmas so it will be a slow and bumpy journey!

Maybe life is nothing more than a journey maybe the destination will never be reached. Maybe we should just focus on making the ride as comfortable as we can!

[mashman]

... and people still choose to vote

[oldrider]

The above cartoon really tells it as it is and the only alternative offering for NZ this election is here: http://www.democrats.org.nz/ (I have no connection to them)

They are the only party offering resistance to the current monetary stranglehold on democracy here!

[Banditbandit]

The 2014 election was too close to call. Neither John Key nor David Cunliffe had enough votes to win. There was much talk about ballot recounting, court challenges, etc., but after much debate, week-long ice fishing competition seemed the sportsman like way, and a good kiwi way, to settle things. The candidate who caught the most fish at the end of the week would win the election.

After much back and forth discussion, it was decided that the contest would take place in a remote frozen lake in the lower south island high country...

There were to be no observers present, and both men were to be sent out separately on this isolated lake and return at 5 P.M.. with their catch for counting and verification by a team of neutral parties.

At the end of the first day, John Key returned to the starting line, and he had 10. Soon, David Cunliffe returned and had no fish. Everyone assumed he was just having a bad day or something and hopefully, he would catch up the next day.

At the end of the 2nd day John Key came in with 20 fish, and David came in again with none.

That evening the Labour caucus got together secretly with David and said, "We think that John Key and National are cheating so tomorrow doesn't bother fishing. Just spy on him, and see just how he is cheating.'

The next night (after John returns with 50 fish), the Labour caucus got together for the report of how the Nationals were cheating.

David said, "You are not going to believe this . . . he's cutting holes in the ice."


(Not original - got it from a mate)

[oldrider]

Nice one BB

[mashman]

The above cartoon really tells it as it is and the only alternative offering for NZ this election is here: http://www.democrats.org.nz/

They are the only party offering resistance to the current monetary stranglehold on democracy here!

At the moment... gimmee a year or two .

[oldrider]

At the moment... gimmee a year or two .

I don't disagree with you but if they can't be convinced to simply make a change to the existing system how the hell are they going to change it all together?

The powers that be will not let go of their excellent freebie without one "hell of a struggle" ... that's why it doesn't happen now!

... Nobody has the balls to make it happen! ... We can make it to outer space and back but we can't run a proper national money system FFS! .. Gimmie strength!

[Brian d marge]

Aint that the truth . . .someoneneeds to call a spade a spade

[mashman]

I don't disagree with you but if they can't be convinced to simply make a change to the existing system how the hell are they going to change it all together?

The powers that be will not let go of their excellent freebie without one "hell of a struggle" ... that's why it doesn't happen now!

... Nobody has the balls to make it happen! ... We can make it to outer space and back but we can't run a proper national money system FFS! .. Gimmie strength!

By divorcing every man woman and child in this country from the system and the affect hat the system has on their behaviour. It's a decision away. I've made my decision and believe that not only is it possible, it'll make THE change that is required to render every other consideration moot. The human endeavor is there, the money isn't... and even when it is it's nowhere near where it needs to be for one reason or another, primarily subsidising jobs that aren't really required in the business process, bodies that could go towards bolstering health and education.

They can't stop this, because it will be the will of a people merely exercising their democratic vote. It doesn't happen now, because the people have never been asked. They can't stop this, because I see it as an inevitability and quite likely within 10 years, quite possibly 5 years and who knows, perhaps in 3 years time once a few more people have been asked.

It's happening right now, there are R.B.E. centric political parties popping up around the globe John. lol... space was great business once upon a time. Now it's a militarised zone. Nothing works better than money, so use nothing instead

[mashman]

Aint that the truth . . .someoneneeds to call a spade a spade

Happy to. Just need funding

[bluninja]

Aint that the truth . . .someoneneeds to call a spade a spade

Happy to. Just need funding

So if the hammer is $1,000,000 how much is a spade?

[mashman]

So if the hammer is $1,000,000 how much is a spade?

As much as you like, same as the hammer i.e. the value that humans decide it is worth in the context of their economy. Tricky to grasp, but I have hopes for ya.