Elections are coming up. What are we thinking?

[Brian d marge]

Ive got a bomb and i will use it . . .i must trade in this old wreck . . , thats how ya get logged

[mashman]

National confident it'll win Eminem legal battle... ahhhh yes, and who will be footing the bill if the nats lose? Fuckin idiots... and those who vote for 'em.

[bluninja]

National confident it'll win Eminem legal battle... ahhhh yes, and who will be footing the bill if the nats lose? Fuckin idiots... and those who vote for 'em.

So why have 8 Mile LLC made all this public rather than just file it in court and look to get paid in an out of court settlement as would normally happen? According to the National propaganda machine the Nats went to the media rights agent and followed things properly. Anyway it's only money..so what are you bitching about ? Is it your money? Tell you what I'll give you a hammer, for free

[mashman]

So why have 8 Mile LLC made all this public rather than just file it in court and look to get paid in an out of court settlement as would normally happen? According to the National propaganda machine the Nats went to the media rights agent and followed things properly. Anyway it's only money..so what are you bitching about ? Is it your money? Tell you what I'll give you a hammer, for free

They're whistleblowing. That cash would be better off spent on other things, but hey, who cares right? That money affects the quality of life of those in the country. S'ok, I've got a hammer ta.

[bluninja]

They're whistleblowing. That cash would be better off spent on other things, but hey, who cares right? That money affects the quality of life of those in the country. S'ok, I've got a hammer ta.

So why does it matter to you how National spend/waste their money? Are you a secret National Party member? Some people would be happy to have Eminem's publishing rights managers bankrupt (financially) the Nationals. Or is National being funded by taxpayers?

Gald you've got a hammer. Can I give you a saw? I think someone said you keep losing them......wait for it.....drum roll please......they said you were a saw loser Ta Da!

I also see more mud is being applied to the "Moment of Truth" as to whether it was election advertising, and fit the rules, and should be within the advertising spending cap. Watching it online I was amazed how many Internet Mana tee shirts were being worn. I would certainly say the event was done to promote the Internet Mana party.

[mashman]

So why does it matter to you how National spend/waste their money? Are you a secret National Party member? Some people would be happy to have Eminem's publishing rights managers bankrupt (financially) the Nationals. Or is National being funded by taxpayers?

Gald you've got a hammer. Can I give you a saw? I think someone said you keep losing them......wait for it.....drum roll please......they said you were a saw loser Ta Da!

I also see more mud is being applied to the "Moment of Truth" as to whether it was election advertising, and fit the rules, and should be within the advertising spending cap. Watching it online I was amazed how many Internet Mana tee shirts were being worn. I would certainly say the event was done to promote the Internet Mana party.

As a potential voter, I would have thought it was important . @party member, I leave such stupidity up to others... oh and just to be clear, that goes for all of the mainstream parties. No doubt some would like to see Eminem as no more too. Of course political parties are funded by the taxpayer... unless of course they're receiving funds from people who don't pay tax.

Cor that was weak... I haz jealousy lol. That would mean that I was trying to win something. Seems that "they" are wrong as they obviously have no idea of my motivation... but "they" can't really be blamed for following the crowd as it's natural for those with a mental deficiency.

, quick, quick, someone's getting an unfair advantage... attack the person and contact legal as we need a new raft of laws to protect ourselves from having our dirty laundry aired in public. Shiny stuff, lies, deception, corruption, catchy tunes etc... all of the bullshit that keeps people from considering policy.

Talking of which, how many policies do national have or labour or the greens etc...? Coz it looks like next to fuck all to me when I read through them recently. I'm surprised that anyone votes given the stunning lack of detail in any of their policies.

[AllanB]

The tune is a storm in a tea cup. Probably got Kimdatcum behind it all...


I predict National will do very well out of the 'moment of poof' evening - I predict a surge there way aas the voting public tire of the personal attacks on the Prime Minister and NZ.


Labour will not do well out of it? Are they still around?


Greens will do very well.

And shit on me the Colin Craig Party is polling over 5%!!!!! crack out the tinfoil.

[Brian d marge]

this is what should happen to the shyt that we elect .....



Look it even comes in its own can ......





Stephen

[mashman]

this is what should happen to the shyt that we elect .....

Stephen

Oh look, the BYOB party. Bring Your Own Bin

[oldrider]

Brother Nate gives his impression of how elections are controlled in America ... in the local turmoil of election fever what similarities are there here?

America?: http://brovids.com/?p=882 How do we compare? ... Can we say we are free of such influence?

[gjm]

So... Did Key know about the spying malarky? I'm sure he'll say not, but he has been incredibly fast and vocal at denouncing those who said it has happened. Is happening...

Key is quick to de-classify stuff that'll help him, but just will not tell us - the public - what is really going on with other things. Like TPPA... Now that's a horror story waiting to happen: megalomaniac tobacco companies suing NZ because we have a stance against smoking is a headline, but it is just that - a headline. The small print is worse.
And JK wants it to happen!!!

He'll probably not get caught on the spying stuff. He's already put Cheryl Gwyn in the frame for that. He's good at that sort of thing.

C'mon National. Kick your lying two-faced leader into touch. It'll probably help you in the polls.

[puddytat]

Longish read , but it'll give you an idea of how "they" are thinking....
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/09/17...e-perfect-ppp/

[awa355]

A good article, I've read the whole thing. Everyone should.

To be honest, I have never expected anything less than total surveillance of all things within the digital world, by those with a vested interest in gathering info. Either for national security or to pass on to commercial interests.

If the Greens or Labour got into power and declared they were going to put things right, the whole issue would simply be re dressed using a different cover.

[gjm]

A good article, I've read the whole thing. Everyone should.

To be honest, I have never expected anything less than total surveillance of all things within the digital world, by those with a vested interest in gathering info. Either for national security or to pass on to commercial interests.

If the Greens or Labour got into power and declared they were going to put things right, the whole issue would simply be re dressed using a different cover.

It's a reflection on the modern world - not on society - that this happens. The reflection on society is the lies and deceit we hear from those claiming to act in our best interests, especially when they deny the existence of certain things. It could be that they are simply the puppets, but if so it is about time they recognised that.

The UK government has long been like this. Those holding power, whether by majority or not, don't actually have as much decision-making ability as the public typically thinks. In the UK, it is the behind-the-scenes folk who do this. Policy is decided, then dressed in Labour/Conservative/Liberal clothes before being presented for the derision, typically, of the masses.

Does anyone remember 'Yes, Minister' and 'Yes, Prime Minister'? Humphrey is a caricature of the reality, but there was just so much truth behind the depiction. The difference these days is that big business is starting to pull the strings more and more.

[oldrider]

MMP is an abomination but the media are a thousand times worse ... once again we have an MMP election driven by media so expect no satisfaction to come from it!

It will probably be quite some time after the election before a result is known and a government sworn in anyway ... how third world can it get! .