View Poll Results: Will you pay to read online news

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  • I'm a Giganaire and will happily pay

    1 2.27%
  • Hell no we wont go there

    38 86.36%
  • Will split fee across flatemates/family

    1 2.27%
  • Will go to mates/library to read free

    3 6.82%
  • Never read the news anyway

    1 2.27%
  • Clinically blind/cant read etc/ unedumacated

    2 4.55%
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    I remember how indignant everybody was at the first suggestion of "pay TV" ..We are all using it today! (including me)
    But you could access stuff you couldn't see before and there was lots of new content. Cancelled sky ages ago, only ever really had it for SBK and Discovery channel.
    Now a lot of the cool docos are on free tv or youtube anyway...

    But paywall news content, no thanks. And it will still prob have those annoying 15-30 sec ads... And news will still be available from lots of free sources...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Strange response from you BB ... well I thought so anyway!

    Why???? Tazz wrote ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz View Post
    Nope! I pretty much exclusively use the BBC and Al Jazeera apps since NZ reporting started slipping.
    Swoop responded ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    What????!!!

    Only a complete retard would rely on the Harold for anything more than some thugby information.
    REAL news? Go elsewhere!
    As Tazz said he didn't read the Harold, but used Al Jazeera and the Beeb it seems pretty clear that Swoop's response showed he had not understood Tazz's post ... he already said he went elsewhere ... not that bright really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post

    I guess it will be the same for pay to read news on line ("paywalls"?) it will happen with or without this generations approval.

    When we were kids we soon learned it was easier to survive by finding the right place and swimming with the current to cross rivers in order to go forward!

    It's hard to believe the amount of change we have faced in our short lifetime compared even to the generation immediately before us! ....
    Hmm, I don't agree with that. I think with the way the internet is these days there will always be free news content. Hell half of the content comes from the public now because they are on scene with cellphones and cameras well before reporters, and more and more they are taking content from youtube and the like because people post it straight there rather than contacting a news agency first.
    IMO you just have to look at the likes of Wiki to see that if all news went pay, someone somewhere would start a free site bringing all that information from the public to one source. Hell there are already sites like that pulling a bunch of stories from any news site on specific topics (food, science, politics etc etc).

    And then there is radio/podcasts too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post

    As Tazz said he didn't read the Harold, but used Al Jazeera and the Beeb it seems pretty clear that Swoop's response showed he had not understood Tazz's post ... he already said he went elsewhere ... not that bright really.
    Yeah I typed something out about that but just couldn't be bothered in the end

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    Well to be honest I am finding it hard to keep up with technical development these days and we are starting to unlearn a lot of what life has taught us as well.

    Not a good look.

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    TVNZ trying to legalize theft. http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/cour...photos-6039689

    The photographer created the images, owns them and they are not in the public domain. He helped the investigation out by allowing them access.
    Now TVNZ wants to cash in on the ratings that showing the images will bring. If somehow they end up winning the case its a dark day for anyone who creates or holds any intellectual property rights in NZ.
    If the police or coroners court have offered the images to TVNZ they should be charged with accessories with intent to commit theft.
    There's nothing in the public interest to see the images, we've had plenty of info from the investigation and news as to what happened and have seen balloon disasters before. If the family need/want to see them I'm sure they can do that in private and the guy would agree to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    TVNZ trying to legalize theft. http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/cour...photos-6039689

    The photographer created the images, owns them and they are not in the public domain. He helped the investigation out by allowing them access.
    Now TVNZ wants to cash in on the ratings that showing the images will bring. If somehow they end up winning the case its a dark day for anyone who creates or holds any intellectual property rights in NZ.
    If the police or coroners court have offered the images to TVNZ they should be charged with accessories with intent to commit theft.
    There's nothing in the public interest to see the images, we've had plenty of info from the investigation and news as to what happened and have seen balloon disasters before. If the family need/want to see them I'm sure they can do that in private and the guy would agree to it.
    Yeah maybe .. evidence that is presented in court is in the public domain ...

    I do get the photographers argument - and I probably support it ...

    But all evidence presented in court is already in the public domain ...
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    Driving around during the day I hear the news on the radio job done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    But all evidence presented in court is already in the public domain ...
    Yes but lets say a rental car is part of the evidence in a murder trial. They don't go letting everyone drive around in it for free after the trial is over.
    A bet TVNZ would be suing left right and centre if someone took all their footage and started selling DVD doco on it...
    Funny when we've had all this demonizing od DotCom and megaupload for 'sharing' music files. Should the songs be free after being presented as evidence in court???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Swoop responded ... As Tazz said he didn't read the Harold, but used Al Jazeera and the Beeb it seems pretty clear that Swoop's response showed he had not understood Tazz's post ... he already said he went elsewhere ... not that bright really.
    Very well read, out of context though.

    Responding to the opening post, Tazz said that essentially the Harold was crap and he sourced his news overseas.
    The comment about the Harold's standards starting to slip was the issue, since they have been low for a very long time now. Only slightly better than a tabloid's standards and without tits on page 3 and bizarre headlines to attract readers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz
    ...since NZ reporting started slipping.

    I'm in agreement with sourcing news from overseas, as my original post stated. "Real news, go elsewhere!".
    Perhaps this wasn't clear enough to be construed as a reply to the OP?


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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Yes but lets say a rental car is part of the evidence in a murder trial. They don't go letting everyone drive around in it for free after the trial is over.
    A bet TVNZ would be suing left right and centre if someone took all their footage and started selling DVD doco on it...
    Funny when we've had all this demonizing od DotCom and megaupload for 'sharing' music files. Should the songs be free after being presented as evidence in court???
    The point is that trials are open and public events, and the public have the right to view all the evidence presented in a trial, unless it is suppressed by the judge (which can happen). That means that we al get to see the Justice Has Been Done.

    (I'm sure you would get all angry and everything if evidence at trials was automatically suppressed .. you would have nothing to comment on),.

    That does not mean that people get to drive a car which is evidence, but should be able to view it. Songs played as evidence can be played as part of the reporting of a trail (that's very different from making them now free of copyright).

    Now - I get the photographer's argument, and I probably agree with it ... currently the law is that all evidence presented in court is in the public domain and can be reported on, shown etc etc in the news media ...

    That does not mean I completely agree with the law ... but I'm sure al you upholders of the law want the law upheld .. don't you???
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    TVNZ trying to legalize theft. http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/cour...photos-6039689

    The photographer created the images, owns them and they are not in the public domain. He helped the investigation out by allowing them access.
    Now TVNZ wants to cash in on the ratings that showing the images will bring. If somehow they end up winning the case its a dark day for anyone who creates or holds any intellectual property rights in NZ.
    If the police or coroners court have offered the images to TVNZ they should be charged with accessories with intent to commit theft.
    There's nothing in the public interest to see the images, we've had plenty of info from the investigation and news as to what happened and have seen balloon disasters before. If the family need/want to see them I'm sure they can do that in private and the guy would agree to it.
    That's funny considering they want thousands for 10-15 seconds of their own footage (or other things) and some is not for sale at all....yet it's ok to steal others or bully it out of them.

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