Chinese "quality control"

[slofox]

That's the latest oxymoron...I laugh when some wanky Chinese official questions NZ quality control.

Cases in point re batteries (not automotive batteries).

1. The bluetooth receiver that goes with the TPX radar detector uses CR2450 batteries. I usually buy them from Tard Me. I have used various brands which, most times, have worked out just fine. But then I bought a card of a shall remain nameless brand (I forget what the name was). Best of them lasted a month. Worst of them about half that. Leave them on for more than an hour at a time and they are dead. New card are Panasonic. Still using the first one two months down the track. Have forgotten to turn it off twice. Still going. Which do you think I will buy again?

2. Cell phone battery. My Nokia dumb phone battery was showing some signs of deterioration (or so I thought at the time). So I got a new one, again, off Tard Me. Turned up with Chinese script all over it and the "Nokia" hologram in the wrong place. "Oh well" I thought "give it a go." Eighteen months on it died totally - would not take a charge. Fortunately, a small doubt at the time had prompted me to keep the old one. It had been in a plastic bag, in the back of the cupboard, for a year and a half' without charging. I assumed it would be fucked. Not so. I put it into the phone, switched it an and away it went, just like a new one. It's still going and gives no signs of imminent demise at present.

I shoulda known better, eh.


p.s. My son-in-law works for KiwiRail. Ask him about the Chinese locomotives...

[Blackbird]

On the other side of the coin, I replaced most of our 50W halogen spotlights round the house with Chinese Cree LED spots and they've been fantastic. Less than half the price delivered compared with NZ and have been running perfectly for a year now. Also replaced our kitchen downlights with sealed LED units from China 6 months ago. Beautifully made and a box of 5 for the same price as one unit at Mitre 10 Mega.

[hayd3n]

chinese levers still great 2 years later $50 , chinese bar end mirrors $30 still looking good 2 years later
just got some 9w led for the bike port and they are awesome $14 for 6 seems chyknees stuff is getting better

[Icemaestro]

On the other side of the coin, I replaced most of our 50W halogen spotlights round the house with Chinese Cree LED spots and they've been fantastic. Less than half the price delivered compared with NZ and have been running perfectly for a year now. Also replaced our kitchen downlights with sealed LED units from China 6 months ago. Beautifully made and a box of 5 for the same price as one unit at Mitre 10 Mega.

Where did you get your LED's from? I've been eyeing up some ones on trademe lately at around 100-150 for 10 10w outdoor ones, but also could do with a few of the GU10 replacements...

[pete376403]

I'd say Chinese quality control can be as good or as poor as the buyer is prepared to pay for.

[Blackbird]

Where did you get your LED's from? I've been eyeing up some ones on trademe lately at around 100-150 for 10 10w outdoor ones, but also could do with a few of the GU10 replacements...

Here are some of the items I've bought over the last year or so and haven't had a problem with any of them. Check the prices against any of the NZ lighting websites! Also bought some solar sensor lamps for the outside stairs up to our deck and no problem with them either.

GU10 warm white: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-GU10-12W...item2a359e5ff9

E14 pure white: http://www.ebay.com/itm/E14-Pure-Whi...item5667707d76

G9 warm white: http://www.ebay.com/itm/G9-G4-E14-E2...item35d375b411

Recessed panels: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dimmable-6W-...item2338fff96b

External sensor lights: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Solar-Powere...3D141310627291


You only have to add up the reduced wattages to see that the power saving is pretty substantial as well as hugely longer bulb life. They don't get hot either. The only light I still need to replace is a 250 W halogen cylindrical bulb in a free-standing uplight in our main lounge. I haven't figured out how to make a neat replacement yet. Might have to junk it and get something else

Hope that helps,

Cheers,

Geoff

[Voltaire]

I'd say Chinese quality control can be as good or as poor as the buyer is prepared to pay for.

Totally true.

[Motu]

p.s. My son-in-law works for KiwiRail. Ask him about the Chinese locomotives...

How are the Chinese locos doing ? They are a lot noisier, and haven't got rid of the need to run double engines on some loads, but apart from the asbestos issue, I've not heard any complaints about them. Is this being kept out of the media?

[Gremlin]

I'd say Chinese quality control can be as good or as poor as the buyer is prepared to pay for.

Agreed, often a product is available from two suppliers, looks similar, but one is very cheap while the other more expensive...

slofox, 18 months from a battery is actually pretty good going. My OEM genuine Samsung battery lasted less than 6 months in the brand new mobile before expanding and becoming useless... Yes, it was replaced, but this was OEM...

[EJK]

Agreed, often a product is available from two suppliers, looks similar, but one is very cheap while the other more expensive...

slofox, 18 months from a battery is actually pretty good going. My OEM genuine Samsung battery lasted less than 6 months in the brand new mobile before expanding and becoming useless... Yes, it was replaced, but this was OEM...

18 months is VERY good for a battery.

OEM Samsung battery used to be a problematic for some. My Samsung S4 OEM was also replace by warranty after 4-5 months. It was quite infamous fault which occured to many.

[Akzle]

p.s. My son-in-law works for KiwiRail. Ask him about the Chinese locomotives...

you mean the ones that were a year late, full of asbestos, didn't fit either the supplied german engines or the gauge railways we have.....
oh fucking lol. sell 49% of that.... to the chinese!

fuck everything.

[george formby]

Japan used to be synonymous with cheap shite and look where we are now.
Slowly but surely China is putting some great products on the market.

The auto electrician down the road sources a lot of his parts for Euro cars and also trucks & diggers etc from China.

He's got one of them new squished VW Beetles in at the mo, overheating. Water pump fan thingy has gone. It's all plastic which has gone hard so it spins on the shaft. He has replaced it with a Chinese kit, all aluminium, which also comes with a secondary electric fan because the VW cooling design is so crap. He's done this to quite a few VW's and has had zero problems. It also extends the cambelt replacement from 60'000 to 100'000kms.
The kit is half the price of OEM.

He's shown me numerous examples of very expensive OEM stuff which is inferior to what is available from China for much cheaper.

It's still wild west but with a bit of research some very good stuff is available.

I'm looking at a Samsung S5 smartphone clone at the mo. Internally it uses exactly the same hardware but with a better processor. Android 4.4.2, 13mp camera etc.
$179 US.
Bonkers.

[awa355]

18 months is VERY good for a battery.

OEM Samsung battery used to be a problematic for some. My Samsung S4 OEM was also replace by warranty after 4-5 months. It was quite infamous fault which occured to many.

Geez, My Motorola Defy is over 4 yrs old. Original battery still goes forever.

[jellywrestler]

On the other side of the coin, I replaced most of our 50W halogen spotlights round the house with Chinese Cree LED spots and they've been fantastic. Less than half the price delivered compared with NZ and have been running perfectly for a year now. Also replaced our kitchen downlights with sealed LED units from China 6 months ago. Beautifully made and a box of 5 for the same price as one unit at Mitre 10 Mega.

yip and they've got a 25000 hr life, you've used then for about 1000 hrs and raving about them, wonder if you'll be doing the same in another year or two?
also are were they legal to fit and fitted with the correct clearances to building elements, or when your house catches fire and your insurance is found to be invalid are you still going to rave about them?

[avgas]

Reminds me of a story about a grumpy old man who bought cheap shit, found it didn't work, then complained about in some sort of racist rant.

China provides the level of quality requested. If you buy shit from them, expect shit. It is the same with Pakistan, India, Brazil........and even NZ.
Had a rant with the boss today - complaining that he Xero software was missing something. I asked him if he was paying top dollar for it - the answer was no. I told him not to expect top quality because he didn't pay top dollar. He agreed.
Everything has a budget and a price point.