11 September - 4 years on

[Ixion]

Where do the Communists fit into all this. We're feeling left out and surplus to requirements.

How do you know it wasn't a COMMUNIST plot? To destabilise both the USA (for obvious reasons) AND the Islamic front - as payback for Afganistan, and to facilitate a Communist takeover in Israel? AND to divert US support for Cheznan rebels (who are Moslem of course) . By playing off the US and the Moslems against each other.

See. It's the COMMIES.Stick with the good old well tried conspiracy theorys, I say. If it was good enough for Joe McCarthy, it's good enough for us.

[SARGE]

Where do the Communists fit into all this. We're feeling left out and surplus to requirements.

How do you know it wasn't a COMMUNIST plot? To destabilise both the USA (for obvious reasons) AND the Islamic front - as payback for Afganistan, and to facilitate a Communist takeover in Israel? AND to divert US support for Cheznan rebels (who are Moslem of course) . By playing off the US and the Moslems against each other.

See. It's the COMMIES.Stick with the good old well tried conspiracy theorys, I say. If it was good enough for Joe McCarthy, it's good enough for us.

right .. i'll look into that ..

[98tls]

The US government has the capability to monitor every electronic communication made anywhere in the world, yet we're expected to believe that they wouldn't be able to 86 this kid long before his video ever became popular?

anyone got a Tui?

Xactly sarge....nail on the head....cant believe so many people can watch that shit and be sucked in by it...mind you i was pretty sceptical about the green party votes as well.....Nandor must have been counting after some pretty good shit....

[Ixion]

right .. i'll look into that ..

Thank you. Was a time, a famer in Podunk, Idaho had a cow go lame and next day it'd be national news that the Commies had a new conspiracy to sabotage US farming . Nowdays, whole countries get toasted, and no-one so much as hints that its a Commie plot. It's humiliating, that's what it is.

[gijoe1313]

Hey Sarge, know this is an emotional time for you - can't say much since so many have said/expressed my feelings/opinions already. Just wanted you to know that its good to know that many people still remember that the cost of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Guys like you still hold to that and are willing to prove it to keep the rest of us safe despite politics, public bias and personal agendas aren't common.

I got up early for some reason on this day, years ago and turned on the TV for no apparant reason. Turns out the reason was more hideous and apparant then I ever knew.

Peace out.

[slowpoke]

Just wanted you to know that its good to know that many people still remember that the cost of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Guys like you still hold to that and are willing to prove it to keep the rest of us safe despite politics, public bias and personal agendas aren't common.

Conversely: the cost of eternal vigilance is freedom.

Eternal vigilance would have seen that the past 50 years of US foreign policy has caused untold damage and dissent in countries around the globe. The realisation should have followed that sooner or later someone is going to get sick of the school yard bully and kick him where it hurts the most.

No offence to Sarge, who's patriotism is admirable, but the armed forces do as they are told, when they are told, where they are told to do it. Unfortunately they are told these things by POLITICIANS, so "politics, public bias and personal agendas" are key elements of the decision making process.

[Wolf]

many people still remember that the cost of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Yep, the citizens of the US are free to have their phones tapped, all electronic communications scanned and be arrested on suspicion of terrorist actvities or sympathies - sounds like the good ol' days of Sen. Joe McCarthy with a lot more technology.

I invoke "Niven's Law" - F*S=k - "the product of Freedom and Security is a constant" - increase one, decrease the other. The US populace is "secure", not "free".

Sorry, Ixion, your commies have been supplanted by the new menace - "terrorism"...

..The corrupt, power-hungry politicians who leap at the chance to enslave their own people are still very much in evidence, however.

Screw the "the US-gov did it to assert control and introduce the measure against their own population" conspiracy theories - the "terrorists" did it, all right. But the US govt was quick and keen to turn it to their advantage. The dust hadn't settled from the Twin Towers and the Bush Administration was already mooting measures that became the "Patriot Act". This is why I will always inherently mistrust politicians.

And unfortunately, as has often been observed, they are the ones who control the military forces. The Military is nothing more than a tool for corrupt politicians - the brave led by the cowards.

Don't believe me? What ever happened to "it is a soldier's moral obligation to disobey an illegal order"? A couple of Brit soldiers tried that in the Iraq war and were tried and condemned as "traitors". Bush and his bum-chums make the rules and issue the orders, the military obeys or faces the consequences.

I feel sorry for my friends in the USA, I'd hate to live in a country whose politicians are hell-bent on proving George Orwell to be unimaginative...

[Finn]

Where do the Communists fit into all this. We're feeling left out and surplus to requirements.

I'll tell you. You're quietly building a super economy in the back ground while the US diverts its attention and the rest of us are trying to save the planet. Soon, you will own the world.

[SARGE]

I got up early for some reason on this day, years ago and turned on the TV for no apparant reason. Turns out the reason was more hideous and apparant then I ever knew.

Peace out.

you'd be suprised at how many people say the exact same thing ..

[Wolf]

I'll tell you. You're quietly building a super economy in the back ground while the US diverts its attention and the rest of us are trying to save the planet. Soon, you will own the world.

Cunning plan. Damned sneaky, these commies.

But it's good to know there'll be someone to turn to when the USA goes "belly-up" due to its own convoluted, energy intensive "Big Brother" Regime...

[SARGE]

Cunning plan. Damned sneaky, these commies.

But it's good to know there'll be someone to turn to when the USA goes "belly-up" due to its own convoluted, energy intensive "Big Brother" Regime...

dont you worry big guy...

im all set up to take over when that happens ...

first thing i do is outlaw organized religion..

my plan gets ugly from there ....

[Wolf]

first thing i do is outlaw organized religion..

my plan gets ugly from there ....

And after such a positive start, too...

[Karma]

my plan gets ugly from there ....

They put you on TV?

[SARGE]

And after such a positive start, too...

well.. ok... i'll clue you in on a few of the finer points ..


rap music is punishable by death.. techno and house are life terms ..country music and pop fans will be committed to an asylum for life .

reality TV will likewise be outlawed ( except for the American Hot Rod/ Chopper car building shows ..) ( see Rap Music laws for Pimp My Ride et al)

there will be a bounty on Boi Racers of $10 to encourage redemption in bulk quantities..V8 Muscle Cars and exotic Supercars are exempt from all laws pertaining to cars in general..


those are a few of the finer points ... you dont want to know about my foreign policy or military doctrine

They put you on TV?

that goes without saying ..

[Wolf]

well.. ok... i'll clue you in on a few of the finer points ..


rap music is punishable by death.. techno and house are life terms ..country music and pop fans will be committed to an asylum for life .

reality TV will likewise be outlawed ( except for the American Hot Rod/ Chopper car building shows ..) ( see Rap Music laws for Pimp My Ride et al)

there will be a bounty on Boi Racers of $10 to encourage redemption in bulk quantities..V8 Muscle Cars and exotic Supercars are exempt from all laws pertaining to cars in general..

Still sounding good so far...

Until the threat of you appearing on TV, then it started to get nasty...