Stupid people & dangerous dogs thread

[Gremlin]

These dogs do seem to want to be owned by wanna be gang members, boy racers and other peti criminal scum. It's a pity that the few decient dog owners who have a legimite reason to own these dangerous dogs are going to have a law passed against them. But I supposed if it saves just a few children having their faces ripped off it will be worth it.

The problem is, it's not really the dogs. Penalise all good owners for the sake of a few crap ones.

That said, dogs, especially mis-treated ones can be really tricky. My uncle had a dog when I grew up in South Africa, we were best of friends, he'd move over in his basket and share with me etc. God help the poor black postman however, Simba had him down for elimination as he'd been previously ill-treated by black owners. Other ill-treated dogs could be completely fine for weeks on end, and then suddenly snap because something triggered them, scared them etc.

Bad owners encompass the entire range for me. Owners ill-treating dogs and others buying working dogs like collies for a family pet (of course it's going to go spare. It's highly intelligent and used to running ALL day). Don't even get me started on the dressed up oversized rats often treated as substitute children ...

[cynna]

people that call their dogs pitbulls when they are not and people that call every dog they see a pitbull should also be put down to stop them breeding

[Mushu]

I think dogs often mirror the personality of their owner, my dog (a German Shepherd) reacts to confrontation much the same way I would. He never shows aggression until completely backed in a corner.

He was raised around small kids and I don't think he would ever be a danger to them but his size means he can knock them over and there have been some small injuries as a result but he is never unsupervised with the kids.

I think owners should be assessed on their ability to keep a given breed of dog, aggressive breeds should only be avaliable to those without any criminal history and should not be able to be owned by anyone who doesn't have the physical strength to restrain it, I've been in a couple of situations walking my dog where another dog has taken their owner clear off their feet trying to attack my dog. (My dog is usually walked off leash, as he doesn't react to anything he doesn't percieve as a direct threat, except the odd rabbit and even then he gives up the chase as soon as I call him back but I have put in a lot of effort to train him to be that way)

[Flip]

people that call their dogs pitbulls when they are not and people that call every dog they see a pitbull should also be put down to stop them breeding

Whats a pitbull? I don't believe they are a recognised breed, just a staffy/terrier mutt bullet trap.

[cynna]

Whats a pitbull? I don't believe they are a recognised breed, just a staffy/terrier mutt bullet trap.

true - just tried to google it and there is so much confusion. from what i have read ages ago its from the same bloodline as american staffordshire but then became its own breed but yes it has a breed standard. looks nothing like what people describe as

[bluninja]

true - just tried to google it and there is so much confusion. from what i have read ages ago its from the same bloodline as american staffordshire but then became its own breed but yes it has a breed standard. looks nothing like what people describe as

In the UK, the dangerous dogs act made it illegal to breed, import and own a pit bull or pit bull cross. Existing dogs had to be neutered, tattooed and muzzled in public places.

The thing is the standard used to asses a dog for breed characteristics was the old American standard that has since changed. It was possible to have a cross bred dog with no pit bull ancestry whatsoever be seized as a pit bull type. The owners would than have to spend over a year and many 1,000s of UK pounds to prove it wasn't a put bull. All the time the dog was kept in secure kennels and the owners had no access to it.

I was part of a group of people pushing to introduce licenses for dog owners and dog breeders. The idea being that you had to prove you were fit to own a dog before you could get one. Breeders had to prove they were fit to own a dog AND only allow their dogs to go to licensed people. The idea was to cut out the back yard breeders that just dump their unwanted product (puppies) and ensure people were fit for dog ownership. Not the political will over there; it's easier to just keep putting dogs in pounds and putting them down.

[JimO]

In the UK, the dangerous dogs act made it illegal to breed, import and own a pit bull or pit bull cross. Existing dogs had to be neutered, tattooed and muzzled in public places.

should be the same with the owners

[Akzle]

two stories about bob and dogs:
1) a dog that had it's feet smashed in with a hammer, saved and homed by m'aunty. would cower from any man entering the property. except me. in the words of vin, it's an animal thing.
(yeah yeah hold your "not a real man" shit for another day faggots)

2) a large chocolate lab, a golden retriever and a little black and white russel fucken thing. the lab will fight or not, lovely dog. needs more fighting i reckon.
the little thing seems quite intent on fighting everytime i see it. possibly because noone else fights with it? (except the cat, which is more like a dog than a cat)
the retriever really really wants to fight, (it's male) but it's owner (its female) doesn't want it "playing those rough boy games".

so i fight it secretly.

[ellipsis]

...I prefer chocolate fish...they are very docile and obedient, and no one gives a fuck if they get out and about without a lead or if you even eat them...

[Flip]

I have a terrier, he is a mid sized 12 kg, historic breed of terrier called a welsh or black and tan english terrier.

Like all terriers he is seven foot tall and very smart. He is however a brillant hunting dog, its what he does best. At the easter bunny hunt on one walk he got 8 and I shot 11, mostly because he goes into a bush and comes out with one and another runs out the back that I shot.

He is a tough wee dog however he is not kind to other intact male dogs. He has earnt his keep for life when my wife was attacked by a neighbours staffy and he put himself in harms way.

[george formby]

I have a terrier, he is a mid sized 12 kg, historic breed of terrier called a welsh or black and tan english terrier.

Like all terriers he is seven foot tall and very smart. He is however a brillant hunting dog, its what he does best. At the easter bunny hunt on one walk he got 8 and I shot 11, mostly because he goes into a bush and comes out with one and another runs out the back that I shot.

He is a tough wee dog however he is not kind to other intact male dogs. He has earnt his keep for life when my wife was attacked by a neighbours staffy and he put himself in harms way.

Gorgeous! I often have two American Airedales here playing with my dog. Absolute mayhem & vermin mad. 3 big terriers scenting every bit of fluff on the property.
Proper dogs, good times, keep them in sight.

[JimO]

i have 2 staffy cross's, both good dogs but i wouldnt leave them with a baby

[Kickaha]

But my personal belief is that it comes down to training, both humans and dogs.

How is training Gordy working out?

I have spread myself too much in the last 24hrs.

Slapper

This is the preferred method in this case because if the owners just surrender their dog, they are more likely to just get another one and continue the cycle.

A friend of mine workind for the RSPCA in the bay of plenty area some time ago and said that was exactly what happened every time they took a mistreated dog off some scumbag

Owners ill-treating dogs and others buying working dogs like collies for a family pet (of course it's going to go spare. It's highly intelligent and used to running ALL day). D

Colliies aren't a problem as a pet so long as you're prepared to spend a lot of time playing with them, you may as well just have some children

[Akzle]

Colliies aren't a problem as a pet so long as you're prepared to spend a lot of time playing with them, you may as well just have some children

most children can't outrun a collie...

damhik

[Stirts]

How is training Gordy working out?

He needs to be neutered.

Slapper

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