MNZ rule changes for 2015

[Reckless]

Meanwhile,

New rules come into effect in 6 days time (Not sure how that fits in without a rulechange) and theyre STILL not available ?????

Here ya go

http://www.mnz.co.nz/docs/default-so...d.pdf?sfvrsn=2

[Skunk]

Not too much to do in a week.


If it ain't smokin', it's broken.

[nodrog:Me]

I wish I sold engine case protectors.

[Pumba]

From MNZ website

Proposed rule changes were placed on the MNZ website, after feedback the Commissioners reviewed their proposed rules and in some instances changes were made. The rules then went to the MNZ Board for ratification.

As previously advised there has been a delay with the implementation of the rules, we sought clarification around the legality of the delay and be assured there are no implications to anyone around the delay.

A summary of the rule changes (in rule order to assist you) are available by clicking here.

The updates to manuals are being sent to all officials, and competitors that have manuals. The changes to the chapters will also be placed on the MNZ website – under Regulations/Rules on the 1st of September.

[Billy]

I wish I sold engine case protectors.

Assuming that was a slant at the board member who DOES sell engine case protectors, It was ME who proposed that rulechange and in fact I proposed it last year but it was not ratified in time, That board member had NO influence at all in the process, I selected SOME changes I thought we could use out of the MA rule book and that was one of them, There are other issues with some board members, But that is not one of them.

[nodrog:Me]

Assuming that was a slant at the board member who DOES sell engine case protectors, It was ME who proposed that rulechange and in fact I proposed it last year but it was not ratified in time, That board member had NO influence at all in the process, I selected SOME changes I thought we could use out of the MA rule book and that was one of them, There are other issues with some board members, But that is not one of them.

I have no idea of what you are going on about. I got the email, Then while looking on Trademe Happened to see the price of some case covers, a Bloke Could retire after selling a few of those.

does it apply to sidecars?

[sidecar bob]

Assuming that was a slant at the board member who DOES sell engine case protectors, It was ME who proposed that rulechange and in fact I proposed it last year but it was not ratified in time, That board member had NO influence at all in the process, I selected SOME changes I thought we could use out of the MA rule book and that was one of them, There are other issues with some board members, But that is not one of them.

See up until now most of us didn't know a board member was in the case protector business, but it's very interesting.
Next thing you will say there's a TV producer on the board & there's a push to swap our prize money for TV coverage.

[Dave-]

Rule 22.3.1 a & b moved from 22.8.16 a & b
“a – when the riders have lined up on the grid they are deemed to be under the starters control at
the instant the RED FLAG reaches the side of the track. Any motorcycle that moves in a forward
motion whilst under the starters control shall be deemed a jump start.”

This rule still makes no sense in the English language.

But in 2015 if anyone jumps the start they can argue that they were only under the starters control the instant the flag was at the side of the track. They're not under the starters control while the flag is on track, off track or holidaying in Fiji.

So long as you don't more forward the instant the flag is at the side of the track, you're free to begin the race whenever.

[quickbuck]

This rule still makes no sense in the English language.

But in 2015 if anyone jumps the start they can argue that they were only under the starters control the instant the flag was at the side of the track. They're not under the starters control while the flag is on track, off track or holidaying in Fiji.

So long as you don't more forward the instant the flag is at the side of the track, you're free to begin the race whenever.

Um, yeah, there appears to be a bit missing as to when you are released from starters control.... We all know when that is, but yeah, fair point....

Should say "FROM", not "AT" maybe??

[GD66]

A few goodies in amongst those rules, REALLY like the $400 fine for running out of gas...bet that was instigated by a mechanic on 10% of the winning prize money...


* Hands-up : FWIW I berated idiots for years for running out of gas, then finally one state championship day when running two bikes , and after racing for 17 years, finally did it myself...sigh...

[Billy]

A few goodies in amongst those rules, REALLY like the $400 fine for running out of gas...bet that was instigated by a mechanic on 10% of the winning prize money...


* Hands-up : FWIW I berated idiots for years for running out of gas, then finally one state championship day when running two bikes , and after racing for 17 years, finally did it myself...sigh...

Haha, Nope,

I introduced the running out of fuel rule last year but stupidly I had only applied it to races and not included qualifying and practice, It came from a coroners recommendation following the double fatality at Puke in 2008 that the then commissioner and his dogsbody ignored, Unfortunately for all, The police investigation following the 2012 fatality at Manfeild picked up on the fact, So I instigated it, Best move I made as commissioner, Especially including the punishment in the rule so the "Expert" officials who fail in their duties on a regular basis had to impose it, Thats when they bother to enforce any rules of course.

[Billy]

I have no idea of what you are going on about. I got the email, Then while looking on Trademe Happened to see the price of some case covers, a Bloke Could retire after selling a few of those.

does it apply to sidecars?

My apologies then, I assumed you had picked up others comments earlier and was just clarifying that in this case it was me and not the said board member that had proposed the change, No it should read "In the event the cases can make contact in the event of a crash", However as I have not been involved in the ratification process and have not read the new rules, I would suggest you read through just to be sure.

[Billy]

See up until now most of us didn't know a board member was in the case protector business, but it's very interesting.
Next thing you will say there's a TV producer on the board & there's a push to swap our prize money for TV coverage.

Hahaha,

TV producer might be stretching it some, I think you mean he had shares in a production company, But I get where your coming from, Also the prizemoney was used for the advertisment of the rounds, Not the coverage. Depending on which story you believe, Took me a LOT of digging to get even close to the truth

[Billy]

This rule still makes no sense in the English language.

But in 2015 if anyone jumps the start they can argue that they were only under the starters control the instant the flag was at the side of the track. They're not under the starters control while the flag is on track, off track or holidaying in Fiji.

So long as you don't more forward the instant the flag is at the side of the track, you're free to begin the race whenever.

Yip,

The original rulechange proposal was "under the starters control", You'll need to talk to the board or standing rules committee re the wording there after.

[Shaun Harris]

Assuming that was a slant at the board member who DOES sell engine case protectors, It was ME who proposed that rulechange and in fact I proposed it last year but it was not ratified in time, That board member had NO influence at all in the process, I selected SOME changes I thought we could use out of the MA rule book and that was one of them, There are other issues with some board members, But that is not one of them.

The board member/s must have listened well to you then, as one of them actually telephoned many months ago asking why I had posted on here that he should stand down due to conflict of interest. And at the end of that converstaion we discussed the rule of engine cases coming in and I said I had purchased some Yoshimura engine case covers and he told me that they would NOT surfice with the new rule coming.

Now was that comment a ales pitch or a safety thought on his behalf