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    Well fuck. Twenty years after getting my licence, I'm gonna need to get my full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Well fuck. Twenty years after getting my licence, I'm gonna need to get my full.

    Slow learner huh???
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Slow learner huh???
    Never felt the need for it.

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    Gonna be a proud moment when I go for my bike license, will be a full house then + endorsements. If I can ever get my shit together enough to actually sit the thing.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    Some interesting contradictions coming through in this thread.

    As the majority on this forum seem to think:
    rider training courses are beneficial.
    That too many people don't know the road rules (wonder why)
    That too man people don't indicate or indicate incorrectly (wonder why)
    That too many road users aren't aware of others.

    But to make people undertake professional training and submit to a test (so that at least for a brief moment n their life they are forced to acknowledge other road users) nah bro too hard and no benefit aye???

    When I did my OE in UK I had to sit their HGV tests as NZ not recognised by EU. The test regime was strict and hard and a different style was needed. Doing that test upped my game and skills big time. Having to train for and pass a test forms good habits at least for a short time with some long term benefits also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post

    Of course, instead, we could just sit around, adopt a defeatist attitude that nothing will fix the problem, and in a decade, the same problem will still exist, and probably be worse.
    and that is the New Zealand way.

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    because most of us never learned how to drive/ride properly,

    we drive/ride like monkeys in a circus.....

    banging into each other and into whatever else is around...

    Giving the popo headshed a seemingly valid reason to roll out the tired "bring down the roadtoll" slogan again...

    Drivers that comply with NZ minimum drivers standards are shocking....

    god have mercy on us all ,since there are plenty of fuckwiths about who can't even be bothered to meet those minimum standards.........

    Lets adapt a European styled system, which would fail about 90 percent of people currently on the road,

    (permanent confiscate vehicle driven/ridden if unlicenced and sell by auction)

    That would bring the roadtoll down......

    AND we could do away with the over anal present road policing policies....(also as per European model...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Well fuck. Twenty years after getting my licence, I'm gonna need to get my full.
    So what you ARE saying is that you havent got your licence.....
    you started 1 or maybe even 2 steps of tbe process 20 years ago....
    And you have failed to complete same process.
    Surely you cant be proud of such under achievements. ?....
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    So what you ARE saying is that you havent got your licence.....
    you started 1 or maybe even 2 steps of tbe process 20 years ago....
    And you have failed to complete same process.
    Surely you cant be proud of such under achievements. ?....
    That's certainly one way to look at it, and is not incorrect.

    Proud of my under achievements? No. A sad commentary on the system? Much more so.

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    ultimately every person is responsible for his /her own actions.....

    it takes a bit of insight and courage to admit one's inadequacies .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    ultimately every person is responsible for his /her own actions.....

    it takes a bit of insight and courage to admit one's inadequacies .....
    How am I inadequate in this context? Happy to prove my bike control ability, and knowledge of the rode rules to anyone...

    Which reminds me, I must get a warrant on the wifes bike and go do GTRman's course. After the last time I said same, he took me up on my claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    How am I inadequate in this context? Happy to prove my bike control ability, and knowledge of the rode rules to anyone...

    Which reminds me, I must get a warrant on the wifes bike and go do GTRman's course. After the last time I said same, he took me up on my claim.
    The place to call and prove your claims is AA.......

    Doesn't make you a better rider, just proves you meet NZ minimum requirements to legally operate motorcycle on public roads

    Thats not to much to ask , surely...?

    maybe you are a 100 x better rider then I am, but untill you got your licence that is irrelevant,
    being legal would have to be the first requirement
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    The place to call and prove your claims is AA.......

    Doesn't make you a better rider, just proves you meet NZ minimum requirements to legally operate motorcycle on public roads

    Thats not to much to ask , surely...?

    maybe you are a 100 x better rider then I am, but untill you got your licence that is irrelevant,
    being legal would have to be the first requirement
    The one I am doing with GTRman gets me my full also, and is one of those advanced training things at the same time.

    If you are suggesting that people cannot trust me to be on the road because of my lack of qualification, we circle back to my point. The state of 90% of road users who are endorsed, is fucken woeful. Why should I bother? It's meaningless. One need only drive down the motorway on a rainy day to prove that beyond any doubt.

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    Ok. You win , the only good drivers/ riders are the ones without a licence...


    on same logic level :

    I always go through red traffic lights,
    coz lots of people get in accidents going through green lights....

    Smoking is not bad for you...
    coz lots of people get lungcancer, yet never smoked....

    start smoking again,
    coz I am putting on weight since I stopped
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