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    Sitting on your Learners or Restricted? Govt to change licensing to make more $$$

    If you've been putting off getting a full driver's license - you might want to get your wheels in motion.

    A new year time limit on new learner and restricted licences will come into force on December 1, Associate Transport Minister Michael Woodhouse announced today. Novice drivers or motorcycle riders who don't move on to the next stage of the Graduated Driver Licensing System (GDLS) within five years will have to take another theory test.

    A paper to Cabinet shows 109,102 learner (or 37 per cent) and 98,838 restricted licence holders (32 per cent) have held their licences for more than six years. Woodhouse cited slightly different figures, saying about 40 per cent of learner licence holders had held their licences for more than six years. For restricted licence holders, this figure rises to 45 per cent.

    "The GDLS is structured so novice drivers and riders progress from a learner licence to a restricted licence and on to a full licence within a reasonable period. It was never intended that drivers and riders stay at the learner or restricted stage indefinitely," Woodhouse said.

    "This change will encourage drivers and riders move through the licence system in a timely way, while gaining the skills and experience needed to drive safely." Holders of a full licence - which lasts for ten years - will be unaffected by the rule change.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...arner-licences

    Should be a nice big money maker for the govt. and AA considering fail rates for practical car licences are around 60% since the change a few years ago.

    Love this tax by stealth bs.


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    Already posted earlier about that :After December the ol driver/rider testers should be kept busy... http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...arner-licences
    Going by those numbers that's about 800 extra people a day needing to sit their test over next year... although a large portion prob wont bother.
    A heads up to get in early anyway for all the newbies out there.

    It's not tax gathering, just look at all the police time taken up on the cop shows by these people who cant be arsed sorting their licence out. Enforcement cost outweighs any fine revenue.
    Man up, do the test, get your licence, pretty simple really...
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Man up, do the test, get your licence, pretty simple really...
    Patience grasshopper, I will get there one day. It has only been 35/36 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...arner-licences

    Should be a nice big money maker for the govt. and AA considering fail rates for practical car licences are around 60% since the change a few years ago.

    Love this tax by stealth bs.

    all three of my nippers have passed every stage 1st time.
    Guess that the 60% fail means safer roads for us all.

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    wait, which jews did you say owned NZ driver licensing ltd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldrider View Post
    all three of my nippers have passed every stage 1st time.
    Guess that the 60% fail means safer roads for us all.
    no it doesn't because a) people drive without licenses. and b) plenty of fully licensed drivers are fuckwits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    no it doesn't because a) people drive without licenses. and b) plenty of fully licensed drivers are fuckwits.
    shit you are nearly normal, are you OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    Should be a nice big money maker for the govt. and AA considering fail rates for practical car licences are around 60% since the change a few years ago.
    sauce?

    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    Love this tax by stealth bs.
    Tax? No son. Money will go to the peeps working at licence agents and the testers. I know a couple and they're by and large GCs.

    In fact this is going to mean more jobs for the economy, so get with the fuckin' spiel already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    b) plenty of fully licensed drivers are fuckwits.
    Who are a little wise, the best fools be.
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    if it makes good economic sense, is all about "safety" and the old test wasn't good enough or safe enough, then they should make everyone who passed under the old system resit too eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erelyes View Post
    sauce?



    Tax? No son. Money will go to the peeps working at licence agents and the testers. I know a couple and they're by and large GCs.

    In fact this is going to mean more jobs for the economy, so get with the fuckin' spiel already.



    Who are a little wise, the best fools be.
    Govt. takes in the tax from the service provided from hundreds of thousands of people who are causing no problems.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...ass-rates-drop

    On February 27, 2012, the agency changed the practical restricted and full licence tests.

    Figures released under the Official Information Act show that before the test was changed, pass rates for both tests were about 75 per cent.

    Two years on, the pass rate is 43 per cent for restricted tests and 58 for the full licence
    The testers I have met myself for motorcycle licence up in AKL have been all good, as to were my testers down South yonks ago when I did car restricted/full etc.


    This is what is concerning:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10837402


    Of 27,568 tests, just 12,123 resulted in passes. Learner drivers have paid more than $650,000 to resit the test, which costs $88 a time.
    It's not going to do anything to clean up the real shit on the roads who drive without regos, wofs, and proper licences.

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    I for one fully support this.

    If you are on your Learners and restricted and can't pass your full licence with 5 years of Driving experiance - please get the fuck off the road thank you.

    I too have heard whining about tests getting harder - and yet I managed to pass my Restricted first time round with Dawn and the wonderful people at Rider training (plug Plug!). So it seems to me that the tests have merely been updated to reflect the absolute minimum standard one needs to be able to ride/drive safely on NZ roads. If 60% of people are unable to atain this pretty low standard then perhaps they shouldn't be driving or should be seeking professional help (ie a Driving instructor). It also seems to re-affirm what many people have been saying for a while - NZers are shit Drivers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post


    It's not going to do anything to clean up the real shit on the roads who drive without regos, wofs, and proper licences.
    But it's a fuckin good start.........

    to many arseholes on the road,

    passrate is obviously way to high,

    no licence ?

    impound/destroy vehicle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post

    no licence ?

    impound/destroy vehicle....
    Fuck, Im glad your not the copper who caught me on my bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    Should be a nice big money maker for the govt.
    So how much is the fine for breaching licence condition vs sitting the test??? Seems to be no shortage of repeat offenders on police ten/7 show.
    Now even if only half of them actually pay their fines, wont it be less money for govt if they had their licence???
    Just seen a shitbox get tipped out by my place other day, musta been learner, cop made the three hoodie passengers get out and walk in rain... yeah that's real cool aye...

    If your so anti the system and tests why even bother getting the learner licence in first place???
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    Maybe with the increased profits they could impliment some ACTUAL driver education programs!.
    ...instead of this, teach yourself, pass a basic parking test, heres ya license, learn the rest as you go! current BS system- GEEE, wot could POSSIBLY go wrong under this current model??...lets just look at the "skilled" driver base its presently churing out for PROFIT!....road safety my arse!, just paying for the priviledge, while learning at other road users expense!

    ...surely they can see the benefits of introducing a system that actually trains people how to drive safely on the road...imagine if the aviation industry used the same kind of system to "licence" pilots!...here ya go sir, your Bill and your license...good luck with learning how to land!


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