EBOLA, creeping timebomb?

**mashman** · 25th August 2014, 12:57

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

He's been watching "Utopia" on Sky/SoHo while stoned.

Better than the Coro and Shorty that you kids seem to be watching, straight

**mashman** · 3rd September 2014, 10:57

Liberian doctors strike, food prices spike as West Africa struggles to contain Ebola outbreak

**oldrider** · 3rd September 2014, 11:53

Originally Posted by mashman

Liberian doctors strike, food prices spike as West Africa struggles to contain Ebola outbreak

It's easier to control and less expensive than war and when they have the antidote for selected recipients ... whatever could possibly go wrong?

**awa355** · 3rd September 2014, 12:01

To be blunt, the powers that be in the west don't give a shit.... Yet!

In a way, there's stuff all the west can do untill these african countries start the ball rolling. re education, sanatation, etc.

**mashman** · 3rd September 2014, 12:15

Originally Posted by awa355

To be blunt, the powers that be in the west don't give a shit.... Yet!

In a way, there's stuff all the west can do untill these african countries start the ball rolling. re education, sanatation, etc.

Education and sanitation costs money that african country's don't have. Instead of raping the place for a century or so, the white muthafuckas should have invested in it.

**mashman** · 3rd September 2014, 14:51

And as if by magic

""Corruption inhibits private investment, reduces economic growth, increases the cost of doing business and can lead to political instability," the report says".

So, a small number of people cause the majority of issues that humanity faces. Sounds about right.

**Edbear** · 3rd September 2014, 15:28

Originally Posted by mashman

Education and sanitation costs money that african country's don't have. Instead of raping the place for a century or so, the white muthafuckas should have invested in it.

Originally Posted by mashman

And as if by magic

""Corruption inhibits private investment, reduces economic growth, increases the cost of doing business and can lead to political instability," the report says".

So, a small number of people cause the majority of issues that humanity faces. Sounds about right.

Originally Posted by awa355

To be blunt, the powers that be in the west don't give a shit.... Yet!

In a way, there's stuff all the west can do untill these african countries start the ball rolling. re education, sanatation, etc.

It's not just the Western nations, the African countries themselves are rife with corruption, civil wars and high level crime. If it was as simple as providing what is needed, the aid agencies would have had it sorted years ago.

Look at Iraq for a prime example of trying to fix the unfixable. The whole world was up in arms, (!), about the depravity and inhumanity that was being inflicted on the people, so the West went in a liberated it from Saddam's regime. Now the country was able to go back to its ethnicly and religiously divided state, and descend back into civil war and the merciless torture and killing and corruption continues on.

**oldrider** · 3rd September 2014, 15:50

Originally Posted by Edbear

It's not just the Western nations, the African countries themselves are rife with corruption, civil wars and high level crime. If it was as simple as providing what is needed, the aid agencies would have had it sorted years ago.

Look at Iraq for a prime example of trying to fix the unfixable. The whole world was up in arms, (!), about the depravity and inhumanity that was being inflicted on the people, so the West went in a liberated it from Saddam's regime. Now the country was able to go back to its ethnicly and religiously divided state, and descend back into civil war and the merciless torture and killing and corruption continues on.

Perhaps the Key government should commission Hager to do a little number on them and kill two birds with one stone!

**mashman** · 3rd September 2014, 18:05

Originally Posted by Edbear

It's not just the Western nations, the African countries themselves are rife with corruption, civil wars and high level crime. If it was as simple as providing what is needed, the aid agencies would have had it sorted years ago.

Look at Iraq for a prime example of trying to fix the unfixable. The whole world was up in arms, (!), about the depravity and inhumanity that was being inflicted on the people, so the West went in a liberated it from Saddam's regime. Now the country was able to go back to its ethnicly and religiously divided state, and descend back into civil war and the merciless torture and killing and corruption continues on.

I'm aware of that. Many years of white rule leaves a lot of mess behind, especially when they didn't really leave as it's too much of a profitable country.

It is not unfixable... but yeah, they've been doing the same thing for centuries around the globe.

**Katman** · 3rd September 2014, 18:43

Originally Posted by Edbear

Look at Iraq for a prime example of trying to fix the unfixable. The whole world was up in arms, (!), about the depravity and inhumanity that was being inflicted on the people, so the West went in a liberated it from Saddam's regime. Now the country was able to go back to its ethnicly and religiously divided state, and descend back into civil war and the merciless torture and killing and corruption continues on.

Because that's how the West like to keep the Middle East.

Destabilized.

**Winston001** · 3rd September 2014, 19:12

There is an interesting blog by a NZ nurse in West Africa:

"The local staff are traumatised. This is a hospital that has lost most of its senior staff to Ebola due to poor understanding of isolation techniques.

The personal protective equipment worn at work was "like doing your job wearing your own personal sauna".

Not a single piece of skin is exposed. You wear scrubs underneath yellow overalls, a plastic apron, face mask, hood protection, goggles, two pairs of gloves and gumboots which are wet from soaking in chlorine.

You spend 45 minutes maximum in the isolation unit assessing patients, giving medications, assisting with feeding, hygiene and also declaring the deceased.

The idea is to go into the isolation unit a maximum of four times per shift. It is very hot work and you are drenched with sweat at the end and need a recovery and rehydration period.

Each shift was made up of three expatriates working with six national staff wearing disposable scrubs. Patients were assessed over a fence from a distance of 1.5 metres, providing no chance for cross-contamination."

https://www.redcross.org.nz/blog/fro...ebola-country/

**awa355** · 4th September 2014, 07:42

A quote from an article I read this morning.

One such experimental drug is ZMapp, which has been given to seven people so far in this outbreak. The company has said that all of its doses are now exhausted, and it will be months before more can be made.

It is also still not clear if the drug is effective, since human trials have not yet been carried out. Some of the people who received ZMapp died, while some survived.******** William Pooley, a British nurse who contracted Ebola while working in Sierra Leone, was among those who received the drug. He was discharged from a London hospital on Wednesday after making a full recovery.

He said his superior care was largely responsible for his survival.

"I was very lucky in several ways: Firstly in the standard of care that I received, which is a world apart from what people are receiving in West Africa, despite various organizations' best efforts," Pooley told reporters. "The other difference is that my symptoms never progressed to the worst stage of the disease."

The health carers must be very dedicated and brave to deal with this disease.

If the outbreak got so big that the health sector couldn't cope and volunteers were needed to work with the disease would you volunteer? Would you let your family go and work with the ebola patients? Somehow I dont know if I would.

**Grashopper** · 4th September 2014, 10:29

Originally Posted by awa355

The health carers must be very dedicated and brave to deal with this disease.

If the outbreak got so big that the health sector couldn't cope and volunteers were needed to work with the disease would you volunteer? Would you let your family go and work with the ebola patients? Somehow I dont know if I would.

Would I let my family go? Guess so, it would be their decision at the end. Would I do it? I have to honestly admit that I probably wouldn't. It would be seriously gross and risky and my idea of risk taking is moving a 250 slowly around corners.

At least until we get to the ' walking dead' state (just without the walking dead..). Everybody will have to chip in then.