Nicky Hager

[mashman]

Bloody Soccer players.........

FFS the sport is Football. You're an english colony, not an american one.

[Woodman]

FFS the sport is Football. You're an english colony, not an american one.

Incorrect. Some rugby people call Rugby Football, Football so it is best to refer to Football as Soccer to save being accidentally hit on by a Soccer player who refers to Soccer as Football and not Football as in Rugby Football.

[mashman]

Incorrect. Some rugby people call Rugby Football, Football so it is best to refer to Football as Soccer to save being accidentally hit on by a Soccer player who refers to Soccer as Football and not Football as in Rugby Football.

So, you shorten the name of your sport for convenience and then change the name of the actual sport that bares that name, before being sportist... I'm sure I heard a similar conversation in the public toilets the other day. "Hey, is it Football or Soccer?" ... "Sssocccerrr" ... "Cool, I've got he lube.". I thought I was hearing things too.

[buggerit]

FFS the sport is Football. You're an english colony, not an american one.

Association football actually, thats there the soccer comes from.

[mada]

Explain how we can ever eradicate poverty defined as <60% of the median income.

**Edit**

Case in point - the number of people in "poverty" went down during the GFC. Not because they were any better off, but simply because the median income dropped.

Case in point, the definition of poverty you provided is made up by yourself and is not used anywhere

Otherwise the poverty rate would stay the same .... So keep on banging your head against the wall

[mashman]

Association football actually, thats there the soccer comes from.

Dagnamit, there's always one who knows

[Maha]

Association football actually, thats there the soccer comes from.

And the word Soccer derives from Association, yeah I watch Hot Seat Millionaire.

[Woodman]

Association football actually, thats there the soccer comes from.

Why did they use the 3rd 4th,5th letters S.O.C instead of the first three letters A.S.S ???

[buggerit]

Why did they use the 3rd 4th,5th letters S.O.C instead of the first three letters A.S.S ???

assoccer, I see what u mean

[carbonhed]

Case in point, the definition of poverty you provided is made up by yourself and is not used anywhere

Otherwise the poverty rate would stay the same .... So keep on banging your head against the wall

Better check back with your controller at Labour HQ.

"The fixed line measure (60 percent of median income) adjusted for housing costs indicated 15 percent of the total population lived in poverty in 2010"

Might want to check this out

[mada]

Better check back with your controller at Labour HQ.

"The fixed line measure (60 percent of median income) adjusted for housing costs indicated 15 percent of the total population lived in poverty in 2010"

Might want to check this out

Well hey, there you go. Congratulations on one of you being able to find out what the true measure of poverty is based on income....

Now can you tell me what the one is for Deprivation - will give you a cyberbeer (picture of beer being held by some hotties like before)...

PS. Labour didn't care too much for kids in poverty either (hence why Child Poverty Action Group took them to court over discrimination in WFF).

[Ocean1]

Well hey, there you go. Congratulations on one of you being able to find out what the true measure of poverty is based on income....

It's not. Unless you're WHO, or a Labour party stalwart it's based on consumption. Huge difference.

Now here's the thing: a lot of people have a vested interest in pretending that poverty is a substantial problem. People like this: http://www.heifer.org/join-the-conve...od-prices.html , an organisation who's existence and funding rely on poverty being a substantial problem. And let's face it where would socialism be if the people's best interests were shown to be other than dependant upon it's core tenets?

And yet organisations without such motives, including those who specialise in collecting and disseminating data from various authoritative and apparently impartial sources tell a slightly different story: http://www.ourworldindata.org/data/g...world-poverty/

"In 1820 the vast majority of people lived in extreme poverty and only a tiny elite enjoyed higher standards of living. Economic growth over the last 200 years completely transformed our world and poverty fell continuously over the whole 2 last centuries. This is even more remarkable when we consider that the population increased 7-fold over the same time (which in itself is a consequence of increasing living standards and decreasing mortality – especially of infants and children – around the world). In a world without economic growth an increase in the population would result into less and less income for everyone and a 7-fold increase would have surely resulted in a world in which everyone is extremely poor. Yet, the exact opposite happened. In a time of unprecedented population growth we managed to lift more and more people out of poverty! Even in 1981 more than 50% of the world population lived in absolute poverty – this is now down to about 20%. This is still a large number of people but the change is happening incredibly fast and for our present world the data tells us that poverty is now falling more quickly than ever before in world history. The first of the Millenium Development Goals set by the UN was to halve the population living in absolute poverty between 1990 and 2015. Rapid economic growth meant that this goal – arguably the most important – was achieved (5 years ahead of time) in 2010."



So let's hear a bit less of your whining about shit you have no idea about, eh? There's a good chap.

[buggerit]

In 1980 an analysis of 6 large firms in Britain found that chief executives were paid 13 to 44 times more than their average employee. The figure has
now increased to 143 times although in some companies it is a lot more.

Waikato Times today

[Woodman]

In 1980 an analysis of 6 large firms in Britain found that chief executives were paid 13 to 44 times more than their average employee. The figure has
now increased to 143 times although in some companies it is a lot more.

Waikato Times today

So some execs are getting paid a shitload. Good for them, but that doesn't make anyone poorer.

[oldrider]

Nice to hear that Niki Hager is giving all of the proceeds of his book to charity ... he is only in it to do good works by exposing evil!