Nicky Hager

[Katman]

Sounds like an incredibly biased coin....

It's one heavily weighted in favour of common sense.

[Woodman]

It's one heavily weighted in favour of common sense.

The exact same common sense that stops anyone with common sense reading anything from hager?

[bogan]

It's one heavily weighted in favour of common sense.

Like the common sense which would suggest coin flips are 50/50 chances? Or the thankfully uncommon conspiracist (non)sense? You do realise you're doing our job for us right? there is no need to go and discredit anti-govt types to ensure their ideals do not gain widespread traction with the likes of you, oldy, aksy, mashy and others showing just how 'great' it is to be anti-govt. That's the fucking funniest thing about it, you still don't get that, all that's left to do is laugh my arse off to the log off

[Katman]

Like the common sense which would suggest coin flips are 50/50 chances? Or the thankfully uncommon conspiracist (non)sense? You do realise you're doing our job for us right? there is no need to go and discredit anti-govt types to ensure their ideals do not gain widespread traction with the likes of you, oldy, aksy, mashy and others showing just how 'great' it is to be anti-govt. That's the fucking funniest thing about it, you still don't get that, all that's left to do is laugh my arse off to the log off

So we've got Deborah Manning on one hand and Kiwibiker's resident Chief Fuckwit on the other.

Does that sound anything like a 50/50 contest to you?

[Woodman]

So we've got Deborah Manning on one hand and Kiwibiker's resident Chief Fuckwit on the other.

Does that sound anything like a 50/50 contest to you?

What? you support a lawyer? whats more a lawyer who was trained at a university that teaches people how to think like sheep. A lawyer who earns well over the average wage?

[Katman]

What? you support a lawyer? whats more a lawyer who was trained at a university that teaches people how to think like sheep. A lawyer who earns well over the average wage?

A lawyer who's infinitely smarter than Berkboy.

Case closed.

[husaberg]

Dude, every time I flip a coin to decide whether to go with one of New Zealand's leading Human Rights lawyers or with Kiwibiker's leading fucking retard, you lose.

It must be a sign.

No its just one of your distractions attempts to avoid the obvious shortcomming of your assertions about the validty of Hagers book

He admitted that the locations are incorrectly marked on one of the maps in the book.

No Katman even Hager subsequently admitted the location of the alledeged village incident is actually substainally different to the location which the alledged victims gave to Stephenson.....
later co-incidentially the allegded village victims again changed their story and said it was actually the location shown by the NZDF afterall.

#Note prior to this Hager and Stephenson had said

In a statement sent to media on Sunday night, the authors say it’s “actually impossible that the story is wrong”.

yet
Hager and Stephenson say two villages in the Tirgiran Valley, called Naik and Khak Khuday Dad, were targeted, The NZDF say New Zealand soldiers have ever visited these villages.
This is backed up with video and GPS tracking.

[Katman]

The only wrinkle is the details like location don't actually match up to verified facts, What stephenson and Hagger and katman dismiss as minor little details, like actual location, are pretty important when it can be proven the Kiwis were nowhere near there.

There was an attack on their villages on the nights that New Zealanders carried out Operation Burnham in the same area.

There is no doubt that they are one in the same.

[Woodman]

A lawyer who's infinitely smarter than Berkboy.

Case closed.

But husaberg doesn't make money from posting on kb therefore he has the moral high ground according to katman logic.

[husaberg]

There was an attack on their villages on the nights that New Zealanders carried out Operation Burnham in the same area.

There is no doubt that they are one in the same.

Really, because Hager and Stephenson and the alledged victims can't actually agree where the incident occured.
Hager has said the village where Stephenson says the incident occued doesn't actually exist.
#neither has been to the village.

What? you support a lawyer? whats more a lawyer who was trained at a university that teaches people how to think like sheep. A lawyer who earns well over the average wage?

But husaberg doesn't make money from posting on kb therefore he has the moral high ground according to katman logic.

You forget hes an epic hypocrite.

[Katman]

Really, because Hager and Stephenson and the alledged victims can't actually agree where the incident occured.
Hager has said the village where Stephenson says the incident occued doesn't actually exist.
#neither has been to the village.

There is absolutely no chance that another attack took place on that same night in the same area without the NZDF's knowledge.

To cling to that argument shows your degree of desperation.

[husaberg]

To cling to that argument shows your degree of desperation.

Says you.....................thats epic

[Katman]

Says you.....................thats epic

Are you suggesting that a completely different attack took place that night, in the same area, without the NZDF's knowledge?

[husaberg]

Are you suggesting that a completely different attack took place that night, in the same area, without the NZDF's knowledge?

No thats clearly you doing that again, you need to constantly introduce such distractions as the witness story hager and Stephenson likely paid for can't actually stand on its own the merits or indeed up to basic levels of scrutiny.
Hager and Stephenson can't even agree what side of a mountain the attack occured or where it was or what it was called , Yet hagers primary souce of information was provided by Stephenson.

[Katman]

No thats clearly you doing that again, you need to constantly introduce such distraions as the witness story hager and Stephenson likely paid for can't actually stand on its own the merits or indeed up to basic levels of scrutiny.

In that case, the attacks described in the book are the attacks carried out by the NZDF during Operation Burnham.

There is no question that another raid could have been carried out that night, in that area, by other combatants, without the NZDF's knowledge.