Nicky Hager

[mada]

Who's keen to play a drinking game?

If you're left wing - Every time John Key calls Hager a "Leftwing conspiracist" = Drink
If you're right wing - Every time John Key says "I don't know" "it doesn't matter" = Drink

See who has to drink more!

[mada]

damn should have made it "at the end of the day" and "people can see".

Guyon: This is the moral leadership you seem to be presiding over here.
Key: Well what i'm saying to you is, in the end, yeah, look, at the end of the day people do look at things and that's just the way it works. Nah, I'm not going to ask Judith Collins if she leaked info.
Guyon: She's admitted that she did pass on info. So why don't you ask her?
Key: Because at the end of the day we're 5 weeks out from an election. People can see that Nicky Hager's made a whole lot of things up in his book.
Guyon: Well, I'm talking about one that can be backed up. You're not going to get away with that because this is the one that can be backed up because the Justice Minister of New Zealand has conceded that she did pass on the name of a public servant. That resulted in him getting some pretty severe death threats and you think that's OK?
Key: And people can see...
Guyon: Is it OK?
Key: And people can see...
Guyon: Is it OK? Yes or no. Is it OK?
Key: And people can see that this...
Guyon: Is it OK?
Key: And people can see...
Guyon: Is it OK that Judith Collins did that? Yes or no?
Key: And people can see that this is a smear campaign by Nicky Hager...
Guyon: I'm not asking you for a critique about Nicky Hager's motivation. I'm asking you about that something that is publicly in the arena. Judith Collins said, "I passed on the name of this public servant" and we know what happened after that. I'm asking you a simple question - was that appropriate?
Key: At the end of the day I don't know the context about what happened here or...
Guyon: You know the context here, Prime Minister. PLEASE answer the question.
Key: I don't know the details behind all of that...

[MisterD]

So apart from less money and more inept management, how are they different from National again?

From the point of view of an ACT voter? Not very, but they do at least select their candidates at electorate level and their caucus votes for their leader, rather than having head office factions and the Unions carve it up amongst themselves.

I'd also say they have a pretty good record over the last two administration of saying what they'd do in their manifesto and then doing it. All those scare stories about selling Kiwibank or whatever have proven to be nonsense.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'd also say they have a pretty good record over the last two administration of saying what they'd do in their manifesto and then doing it. All those scare stories about selling Kiwibank or whatever have proven to be nonsense.

Have you looked at any numbers for Kiwibank? Its not only cash strapped for expansion but it loses its entire identity if sold to one of the other big brands. It would be the next National Bank (RIP). Same colour even.

TSB Bank FTW.

[Oscar]

Have you looked at any numbers for Kiwibank? Its not only cash strapped for expansion but it loses its entire identity if sold to one of the other big brands. It would be the next National Bank (RIP). Same colour even.

TSB Bank FTW.

National Bank was always foreign owned.

[HenryDorsetCase]

National Bank was always foreign owned.

I know. That was not my point. They had very good customer service and a well known brand and loyal customers. They were bought by ANZ and that identity and a lot of the goodwill was lost when the brand disappeared.

[oldrider]

Who's keen to play a drinking game?

If you're left wing - Every time John Key calls Hager a "Leftwing conspiracist" = Drink
If you're right wing - Every time John Key says "I don't know" "it doesn't matter" = Drink

See who has to drink more!

You really are in your element right now aren't you, it is this rather than motorcycles that braught you to KB!

[mada]

Will people still vote National if John Key resigns?

Right wing commentator Matthew Hooten (named in the Dirty Politics book as one of the key players) has come out today and said he is fucked based on the interview this morning.

[mada]

You really are in your element right now aren't you, it is this rather than motorcycles that braught you to KB!

Actually the good advice on the other parts of the forum regarding tips for riding, gear, etc was what bought me here.

Who cares you say? Why spend time following and responding then...

[Naki Rat]

Will people still vote National if John Key resigns?

Right wing commentator Matthew Hooten (named in the Dirty Politics book as one of the key players) has come out today and said he is fucked based on the interview this morning.

This morning's Nat Radio political commentators Matthew Hooton & Mike Williams here. Interesting listening.

[puddytat]

They're not, but they're the only party that our media gatekeepers deem it neccessary to tell the sheeple about.

Nah completely wrong...they are the only party consistently releasing good policy & the ONLY party that has never been instigated in dodgyness.

Cameron Slater is thick enough but do you honestly think that everything that KDC been through with illegal searches & surveillance that he'd be that fucking stupud to go anywhere near hacking anything? When your a sleaze ball like Slater, there'd be plenty of folks who'd want him brought down & quite a few who'd like to see him against the wall with his masters.

[MisterD]

Nah completely wrong...they are the only party consistently releasing good policy & the ONLY party that has never been instigated in dodgyness.

Apart from that bloke with the tape recorder at the Nats' party the other year...

Cameron Slater is thick enough but do you honestly think that everything that KDC been through with illegal searches & surveillance that he'd be that fucking stupud to go anywhere near hacking anything? When your a sleaze ball like Slater, there'd be plenty of folks who'd want him brought down & quite a few who'd like to see him against the wall with his masters.

I think he's an ego bigger than his waistline and he's desperate and lashing out. It's that or swap his black onesie for an orange one.

[imdying]

All of a sudden its gotten interesting.

I think you might be overstating things a little

[oldrider]

Actually the good advice on the other parts of the forum regarding tips for riding, gear, etc was what bought me here.

Who cares you say? Why spend time following and responding then...

Because I have been a licence holding motorcyclist and owner of motorcycles almost continually for 60 years and now that I sold my last bike I just can't quite let go!

That's why I stay here and cackle with like minded folk and exchange a few points of view to stay in a familiar mix .... I think you are a party plant!

After the election fever dies off . so will you! Skyryder was a bit like that but at least he was a good guy!

[mada]

Because I have been a licence holding motorcyclist and owner of motorcycles almost continually for 60 years and now that I sold my last bike I just can't quite let go!

That's why I stay here and cackle with like minded folk and exchange a few points of view to stay in a familiar mix .... I think you are a party plant!

After the election fever dies off . so will you! Skyryder was a bit like that but at least he was a good guy!

Nah... I'lll prob be bitching about Cunliffe and the govt after election

Meanwhile, looks like our mate Whale was hunting down fellow bikers... nice of him..

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/11/information-please/