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    Braided lines, are 2 better than 1?

    I have recently fitted new rotors and pads to my bike and am thinking about fitting new braided lines while I am at it. The bike is to be used for pretty much trackdays only so would obviously benefit from the change but my question is, are 2 seperate lines from the master cylinder direct to each caliper a better option than the standard fitment of 1 line to the R/H caliper then the loop to the L/H caliper. What change in feel could I expect, does the master cylinder piston have enough capacity to do what it was obvioulsly not intended to do when it was designed. Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.

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    One line to each is spot on. Brakes will feel harder with less foce needed on handle

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    two lines won't make any difference to the master cylinder ratio as you are only moving fluid in the lines. You could put a 10 meter long brake line on and it still wouldn't make any difference to how the hydraulic system works as the fluid entering the top of the line will only displace the same amount at the bottom of the line.

    The main benefit to fitting two lines is that it gets rid of a joint in the system and this joint can be a air trap. As the lines both run from the callipers up to the master cylinder with no extra joint it makes it easier to bleed the brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubber View Post
    One line to each is spot on. Brakes will feel harder with less foce needed on handle
    You don't really understand hydraulics, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You don't really understand hydraulics, do you?
    ...I know what NOT to do wiv Hydraulics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premature Accelerato View Post
    I have recently fitted new rotors and pads to my bike and am thinking about fitting new braided lines while I am at it. The bike is to be used for pretty much trackdays only so would obviously benefit from the change but my question is, are 2 seperate lines from the master cylinder direct to each caliper a better option than the standard fitment of 1 line to the R/H caliper then the loop to the L/H caliper. What change in feel could I expect, does the master cylinder piston have enough capacity to do what it was obvioulsly not intended to do when it was designed. Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    Only bike I have owned with 'dual lines' is my ZZR1100, prev' owner did a brake upgrade....rotors, lines and master cylinders.... Not sure why? but he used the clutch and brake reservoirs from a Honda CB (r)???? 1000. I think the Honda brake master cyl' can displace more fluid at the piston than the OEM kwaka one.... Dont know if that give better pressure or not...... but ????
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    Biggest advantage to seperate lines from the master is cooling of the fluid. But with good fluid and pads, ya need to be fucken fast to notice the effects. Even then, I'd bet good money any fade was down to a fault someplace else.

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    Braided lines, are 2 better than 1
    no, you're not thinking of braided lines, you're thinking of boobs.
    two is mos. def. better than one.

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    Agree regarding the boobs, but if you are at the beach in the surf and the lovely next to you pops a titty in a wave and she does not notice it is fine by me.

    Just what is the acceptable time one is allowed before innocently pointing it out to her?

    Probably asking the wrong people, half of you would ask her if it was OK for them to 'free' the other side.

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    I believe just before someone else notices is the correct time

    As for the brake lines, I run a single with a loop over, there is less line length, so less weight and less capacity change from any stretching, small tho it may be.
    Never found cooling to be an issue, tho I am slow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You don't really understand hydraulics, do you?
    Actually i do. This has been recommended by a specialist so i wouldn't get too smart if i was you. And it works and it's very true.
    Google if ya like but would do it before you come on here with the smarts next time dick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubber View Post
    Actually i do. This has been recommended by a specialist so i wouldn't get too smart if i was you. And it works and it's very true.
    Google if ya like but would do it before you come on here with the smarts next time dick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubber View Post
    Actually i do. This has been recommended by a specialist so i wouldn't get too smart if i was you. And it works and it's very true.
    Google if ya like but would do it before you come on here with the smarts next time dick!
    You're a tool.

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    Personally I'd just copy what the MotoGP dudes do and call it a day

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