Ever wanted a factory supercharged Ninja?

**Tazz** · 5th September 2014, 22:37

Originally Posted by Gremlin

I'm thinking it's more likely a 1400cc gets replaced with a supercharged 1000cc for example. The benefit of a supercharger is that while it uses more fuel (compared to a turbo using exhaust gas) it's more linear, without the turbo lag, which means you don't have it suddenly going mental at x rpm, meaning a smoother ride.

Should be able to set it up to turn on and off (supercharger) at the push of a button like on a car surely?

**pete376403** · 5th September 2014, 23:25

Originally Posted by Tazz

Should be able to set it up to turn on and off (supercharger) at the push of a button like on a car surely?

What type of car has that feature?

**Tazz** · 6th September 2014, 00:05

Originally Posted by pete376403

What type of car has that feature?

Just figured a dude on the West Coast couldn't have been the first...maybe I'm wrong. Something I filed in the memory bank without looking into much further.

http://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Forum...=11275&start=0

I believe the A/C button turns it on and off

**jonbuoy** · 6th September 2014, 08:53

Originally Posted by Tazz

Just figured a dude on the West Coast couldn't have been the first...maybe I'm wrong. Something I filed in the memory bank without looking into much further.

http://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Forum...=11275&start=0

I believe the A/C button turns it on and off

Why would you want to? Chances are the engines been built with supercharging in mind - maybe lower compression set up. If you have a vacuum valve fitted at idle or low loads the supercharger is bypassed. Grab a handful of throttle and the supercharger kicks in.

**pete376403** · 6th September 2014, 11:51

Originally Posted by Tazz

Just figured a dude on the West Coast couldn't have been the first...maybe I'm wrong. Something I filed in the memory bank without looking into much further.

http://www.offroadexpress.kiwi/Forum...=11275&start=0

I believe the A/C button turns it on and off

The falcon in MadMax had that but whether it really worked or not…

Using the magnetic clutch from an A/c compressor is feasible but i have no idea what sort of torque they can handle. Superchargers at full noise take quite a lot of power to drive - at the the extreme end a top fuel blower is reputed to need about 300HP or more to drive.

**Tazz** · 6th September 2014, 13:15

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

Why would you want to? Chances are the engines been built with supercharging in mind - maybe lower compression set up. If you have a vacuum valve fitted at idle or low loads the supercharger is bypassed. Grab a handful of throttle and the supercharger kicks in.

Yes that would probably be a better approach, although you could still have a feature to automatically keep you under the rev range.
Why? MPGs. They seem to be all the rage these days XD Also maybe just a conditions things, wet settings, track, sports etc. Like the BS they put in some cars these days. Worth it? Maybe not, just something that crossed my mind.

Originally Posted by pete376403

The falcon in MadMax had that but whether it really worked or not…

Using the magnetic clutch from an A/c compressor is feasible but i have no idea what sort of torque they can handle. Superchargers at full noise take quite a lot of power to drive - at the the extreme end a top fuel blower is reputed to need about 300HP or more to drive.

There was another factory Ford with it. I had a quick look last night as I just took it for granted it was a relatively straight forward thing to do.
Bit different (easier) but I mean you can even adjust the boost of a turbocharger from your driver's seat these days (and still have it all correctly fuelling).

That Hilux has had that setup for a long time. Not sure how much he uses it but by the fact there is no straight panel on that truck I'd say it gets a decent amount of jandal time

That would have to be a drag car and custom setup though? Different kettle of fish for a vehicle that is designed to be ridden/driven reliably on the road on a regular basis.

Who knows though, maybe they go all out with a supercharged 1.4L motor. The are doing the marketing/suspense thing well either way.

Also on the front as to why they came and went, wasn't a lot of it because so much tech comes for motorsports, but forced induction was not allowed in most of the top levels for ages? I don't follow it anymore but the F1 is back to a turdbo engines I heard.

**AllanB** · 6th September 2014, 21:26

Kawasaki will be relying on their top end jet ski experienced - they supercharge those bad boys.

MD · 10th September 2014, 15:50

3rd teaser released with a glimpse of the bike - it is an all out sportsbike, sure isn't a scooter.

see; www.ninja-h2.com

Lucky I'm not looking for any more sportsbikes in my life.

**Ender EnZed** · 10th September 2014, 16:37

Originally Posted by MD

3rd teaser released with a glimpse of the bike - it is an all out sportsbike, sure isn't a scooter.

see; www.ninja-h2.com

Lucky I'm not looking for any more sportsbikes in my life.

Low bars and no chance of a pillion seat. Doesn't look like a ZX14 replacement.

**Ribit** · 10th September 2014, 17:59

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bike...d-kawasaki-h2/

This is a really good site for info on the new super kwaksak.
The related posts at the bottom of the article go into tech speak with schematics about the supercharger and its benefits.

**The Reibz** · 12th September 2014, 18:00

I got a feeling insurance companies are not going to like this bike. So many of these are going to get written off in the first few months of sales it won't be funny.
300hp is pushing it for a factory bike IMO, its going to need water to air intercooling (which isn't as easy as you think to fit on a bike) just to run the amount of boost it takes to make that much power. Just the size of the charger in the pictures alone says there is no way its capable of 300.

Im betting its going to run at 6 to 8 psi and make less than 220hp. People will no doubt try and squeeze more out of it without knowing what they are doing (like ricers) and end up melting the motor.

Going to be a great bike, I just can't see it really living up to the hype

**AllanB** · 12th September 2014, 20:37

Originally Posted by MD

3rd teaser released with a glimpse of the bike - it is an all out sportsbike, sure isn't a scooter.

see; www.ninja-h2.com

Lucky I'm not looking for any more sportsbikes in my life.

That shit showed me nothing!

Did look a bit fucking origami though whatever I was looking at. A new 'old' logo - WOW!!!!!

**BlackSheepLogic** · 13th September 2014, 09:48

Originally Posted by The Reibz

I got a feeling insurance companies are not going to like this bike. So many of these are going to get written off in the first few months of sales it won't be funny

Insurance companies don't likes bikes much anyway. Doesn't take much to write a bike off as uneconomic to repair. The rate will be set based on the cc rating of the bike making the 750 cheaper than a larger bike capable of matching it's performance.