New desktop hassles

[Gremlin]

The desk top went back to the shop this morning. They have done some adjustments and updated some drivers etc. (wouldn't have thought anything would need updating on a new pc).

Quite possible. Batch of motherboards we bought early in USB3 launch had issues for a few days, then a new driver sorted it out (all the head scratching and no new drivers for a day or 2 wasn't convenient tho).

Hope it works for ya now

[mossy1200]

My new acer with 8.1 laptop is a dog.

You go into pictures and you cant get back out again.
When it shuts down with an update to do you get up the next morning and find the update has failed its been going all night.
Gets to 30% on the update and has a tanty.
Theres no option to shut down without update if it wants to do one.

Often it turns on has dropped the wireless after an update.


Wish my old laptop hadn't had an accident.

[Gremlin]

Don't worry... Windows 9 will probably be out next year

Reminds me of this funny vid (actually being forced to use Win8 on customer MS Surfaces reminds me of this a lot right now):

[Big Dog]

Don't worry... Windows 9 will probably be out next year

Reminds me of this funny vid (actually being forced to use Win8 on customer MS Surfaces reminds me of this a lot right now):

Don't forge the curse of the even OS?
Every second OS sucks so bad you have to buy the odd numbered versions.

To be fair 8.1 is much better than 8.
Provided you go and disable all the crap ware that is only in 8 if you do an upgrade.

I have an AMD exquivalent of a gaming I7. Microsoft 8.1 uses 50% less CPU if I turn off dynamic panels on the metro desktop...
So let me be clear... if I use sql server, visual studio, mail and a couple of vms it uses 100% cpu. turn that crap (like metro mail, people etc) off only using 60% CPU... (about 10% is consumed by the OS and other automated tasks.)

[Akzle]

microsoft offends me with resource whoring. And it doesnt even DO anything for it.

[jonbuoy]

Don't forge the curse of the even OS?
Every second OS sucks so bad you have to buy the odd numbered versions.

To be fair 8.1 is much better than 8.
Provided you go and disable all the crap ware that is only in 8 if you do an upgrade.

I have an AMD exquivalent of a gaming I7. Microsoft 8.1 uses 50% less CPU if I turn off dynamic panels on the metro desktop...
So let me be clear... if I use sql server, visual studio, mail and a couple of vms it uses 100% cpu. turn that crap (like metro mail, people etc) off only using 60% CPU... (about 10% is consumed by the OS and other automated tasks.)

Yeah its not so bad when you get it as close to Windows 7 as possible. What the hell were they thinking with Windows 8 - forcing a tablet interface onto desktop users. Surely to god someone at Microsoft tried giving it to a normal work user and asked them what they thought. They were doing so well with Windows 7. No one needs/wants to full screen every single programme on a desktop/Laptop.

[Big Dog]

Windows key + arrow keys. Magic. Unfortunately this still only let's you split screen metro but it is better than full.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Gremlin]

Surely to god someone at Microsoft tried giving it to a normal work user and asked them what they thought. They were doing so well with Windows 7. No one needs/wants to full screen every single programme on a desktop/Laptop.

I thought about that a lot. I suspect all the key decision makers were in their positions because they were yes men. That said, whoever was head of Win8 development got fired (read or told somewhere). As someone that has triple screens on work and home desktops, full screening almost anything is stupid. Having a "Start Menu" that fills my screen? Not to mention that to edit user accounts it bounces you to metro, but won't return you to desktop when you're finished. The Esc key sometimes works on the metro tiles to get you to desktop, sometimes doesn't... Then I end up shouting at the OS...

Windows key + arrow keys. Magic. Unfortunately this still only let's you split screen metro but it is better than full.

A few days ago, I discovered you can right click on Start (or whatever we're supposed to call it, tile? globe?) and get a lot of the basics (I was scratching my head how I was supposed to launch an admin command prompt). I actually started using Start a whole lot more with Win7, as you can do things like type "icons" and get the prompt "Show or hide common icons on the desktop". It saves a lot of time digging through the menus.

I had to setup a couple of Surfaces in the last couple of weeks. I installed remote software and used that (with it 1m away) rather than use the actual device... it was quicker...

[Big Dog]

Sounds like you should try pokki menu.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Gremlin]

Sounds like you should try pokki menu.

Used a couple of them on a few machines, but the Surface is a different kettle of fish. Haven't found one that exactly mimics all the functionality of Win7 (like the searching option for icons for eg - but I haven't used the Pokki one).

My fix for myself... use Win7. If I spend all my time trying to make it look like Win7, what's the point of having Win8?

[Big Dog]

Without a touch screen, or a desire to use the cutdown ie. not much.

Running multiple browsers is smoother.
Running multiple vans are smoother.
The power shell integration is a1, especially for multiple machine management.
Memory management is better for 64 bit apps. At the cost of 32 bit apps mind. This is horrible because a lot of drivers and support software saw still 32 bit. Eg if I put in a wireless adapter in she runs fine, streams movies to TV etc. But install the support software as well and IRQ central.

Works fine on 32 bit systems and win7.




Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Akzle]

Running multiple browsers is smoother.
Running multiple vans are smoother.
The power shell integration is a1, especially for multiple machine management.
Memory management is better for 64 bit apps.

1) why would you? that's just stupid
2) van? what kind of uteless bastard has vans?
3) scripting? for windows? you masochist.
4) no it isn't.

i would suggest that ubuntu could shit all over your current set up. for free.

[Big Dog]

1) why would you? that's just stupid
2) van? what kind of uteless bastard has vans?
3) scripting? for windows? you masochist.
4) no it isn't.

i would suggest that ubuntu could shit all over your current set up. for free.

1 because what I do for a job requires ability to do so? Because I often use browsers to keep identities separate for email logins. Because some systems only work properly in ie but buggered if I am going to use ie for general surfing.
2 DYAC, I meant VM's. Virtual machines.
3 Microsoft SQL Server requires a windows OS. Also helps to be able to test powershell scripts you plan to run against core edition servers on something that is not in our DMZ.
4 Compared to windows 7 yes it is.
When I have no need for windows based apps I run Ubuntu. Or Ubuntu server.
Yes they are faster. Yes they crash less.
Bit they also both have limitations that take
Them out of the ballpark for total solution for me.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Akzle]

any one/thing that 'requires' ie, deserves nothing but scorn. Burn it.

[Gremlin]

Because some systems only work properly in ie but buggered if I am going to use ie for general surfing.

IE Tab 2 extension for Firefox. Handles things like OWA which many often won't.