Any one have Round-up shares?

[bogan]

I didn't accuse him I suggested it could be a logical assumption considering his past efforts based on the fact he was well qualified to know what was required to produce a valid scientific conclusion.

Like I said, step one is the science; that^ waffle, is not.

[husaberg]

Like I said, step one is the science; that^ waffle, is not.

I think you are underestimating the power of Waffle.
Have you even looked to see if the study has been repeated?

[bogan]

I think you are underestimating the power of Waffle.
Have you even looked to see if the study has been repeated?

Like I said, rational people focus on the science, others are swayed by waffle.

That's better. No, it hasn't; hence us being stuck on step one.

[husaberg]

Like I said, rational people focus on the science, others are swayed by waffle.

That's better. No, it hasn't; hence us being stuck on step one.

How exactly do you know it hasn't?

[bogan]

How exactly do you know it hasn't?

I've looked, obviously.

[husaberg]

I've looked, obviously.

Its a lot harder pretty hard to prove the absence of information, Ie logically just because you couldn't find it doesn't mean it hasn't be done.

[bogan]

Its a lot harder pretty hard to prove the absence of information, Ie logically just because you couldn't find it doesn't mean it hasn't be done.

Irrelevant, either way we are still at step one, get the science correct. How are you not understanding this simple point?

[husaberg]

Irrelevant, either way we are still at step one, get the science correct. How are you not understanding this simple point?

I fully understand it, but I think you are missing the point entirely.

[bogan]

I fully understand it, but I think you are missing the point entirely.

If you understood it, you wouldn't be drawing conclusions. Just like that bloke with the article...

As for the point I'm allegedly missing, perhaps you'd like to make it?

[husaberg]

If you understood it, you wouldn't be drawing conclusions. Just like that bloke with the article...

As for the point I'm allegedly missing, perhaps you'd like to make it?

How about you dismount off your high horse for a second and actually read what I wrote.

After you have done so read this for giggles
http://www.truthwiki.org/glyphosate/
Whoever wrote this needs a good kicking, it seems they are unable to understand the difference between 245T and 2-4D.

[Akzle]

Irrelevant, either way we are still at step one, get the science correct. How are you not understanding this simple point?

oo. I can explain this one:

he's a fucking idiot.

[bogan]

How about you dismount off your high horse for a second and actually read what I wrote.

After you have done so read this for giggles
http://www.truthwiki.org/glyphosate/
Whoever wrote this needs a good kicking, it seems they are unable to understand the difference between 245T and 2-4D.

Speaking of horses, looks like you've found one to go for a gish gallop on.

Let me know if you get up to step one though...

[husaberg]

Speaking of horses, looks like you've found one to go for a gish gallop on.

Let me know if you get up to step one though...

I asked ages ago who would do such study? as the most interested party Monsanto would unlikely to be believed and the party that did the original study is obviously not interested or they would have done so by now. If you recall I even asked you if you had enough rats.
I haven't gish galloped anything, all my points were about the subject I never tried to confuse the information by changing the subject, but you just did.

[puddytat]

http://www.truthwiki.org/glyphosate/
Whoever wrote this needs a good kicking, it seems they are unable to understand the difference between 245T and 2-4D.

What ...that one has been banned because it fucks up shit a lot & that the other fucks up shit not quite so badly?

The fact of the matter is that Monsanto has never done tests of its own to disprove the findings of the EU.
its banned for a reason. Its fucking dodgy when used in intensive farming systems.
If people don't agree well keep on eating that dodgy shit from your local supermarket.

[husaberg]

What ...that one has been banned because it fucks up shit a lot & that the other fucks up shit not quite so badly?

The fact of the matter is that Monsanto has never done tests of its own to disprove the findings of the EU.
its banned for a reason. Its fucking dodgy when used in intensive farming systems.
If people don't agree well keep on eating that dodgy shit from your local supermarket.

Monsanto are actually required to do the initial testing on new products that's how the system works and that's what happens in the old USA anyway.
Pretty sure seeing as you worked on a farm you know 245T and 24D are entirely different beasts and both are Dow products rather than Monsanto to boot.