Key Government out on its own. No one else to blame!

[Ocean1]

there's ALOT of tax being avoided, maybee you've chosen to ignore the IRD's "tax evasion" stats each year & that's before you get into legalised tax evasion (but hey that's alright cause it's legal right)
This is from a study done by Victoria University

So you blame high income earners for benefit fraud?

[Scuba_Steve]

Wouldn't be motivational at all, as anyon in it for the money would just get a different job, and you'd be left with those just in it for the power, or those who wish to make a difference.

Isn't that who we want? You're not making a good argument not to reduce pay

[mashman]

That wee graph says high income families pay almost all of the tax.

Which taxes exactly do you think are being avoided? And by whom?

I don't mind paying taxes for some people to just get by in a world that does not provide enough jobs for the population, irrespective of how they live their lives. Ya get what ya pay for.

As many as possible. Screw the consequences. Triffic solution man.

[Scuba_Steve]

So you blame high income earners for benefit fraud?

umm ...yea sure why not

[bogan]

Isn't that who we want? You're not making a good argument not to reduce pay

And if wishes were fishes the children would be well fed already. Good intentions are not enough qualification to manage a country in today's complex world.

[Scuba_Steve]

And if wishes were fishes the children would be well fed already. Good intentions are not enough qualification to manage a country in today's complex world.

But being money hungry is???
I'm not getting how this works given those there now are far from qualified for the positions they hold. If your motivation is personal financial interest you're qualified, but if your motivation is NZ & it's people you're not? ...Seems a bit backwards to me

[blue rider]

deja vu

[pritch]

Has anyone told the Greenies and Labour that there is a by election going on up that way.

This has all been covered on the news. Andrew Little told the Labour voters to vote for Winston - sort of. It wasn't the finest piece of straight talking but that was the gist.

[pritch]

there's ALOT of tax being avoided, maybee you've chosen to ignore the IRD's "tax evasion" stats each year & that's before you get into legalised tax evasion (but hey that's alright cause it's legal right)
This is from a study done by Victoria University

Tax avoidance is legal. Tax evasion is not. "Legal tax evasion" is an oxymoron.

[Brian d marge]

So you blame high income earners for benefit fraud?

there is a link but i doubt u will see it

[Brian d marge]

And if wishes were fishes the children would be well fed already. Good intentions are not enough qualification to manage a country in today's complex world.

thats true but they are a good start

[Brian d marge]

Tax avoidance is legal. Tax evasion is not. "Legal tax evasion" is an oxymoron.

avoid . . i dont want to pay but will given sufficient incentive . . .balls in a vice

evade . . . . doing my level best not to pay . . . ever

benefit fraud . . . stealing a few lollies from the lolly jar

Parliamentary entitlements . . . stealing the whole jar under the guise of running the country

[Akzle]

Wouldn't be motivational at all, as anyon in it for the money would just get a different job, and you'd be left with those just in it for the power, or those who wish to make a difference.

Pay peanuts and you'll get monkeys. I know the current crop might not look much better at times, but the nature of their job is to be criticised for anything, and never praised; it'd be a hell of a lot worse if monkeys were doing it.

yer a funny wee man...

[bogan]

But being money hungry is???
I'm not getting how this works given those there now are far from qualified for the positions they hold. If your motivation is personal financial interest you're qualified, but if your motivation is NZ & it's people you're not? ...Seems a bit backwards to me

Being money hungry is not a qualification. But, those who are qualified should be paid a commensurate amount, otherwise they would just find other employ. Might seem backwards to you, but just think of mashy, all keen to make a difference through forcing other's to his own ideal; he even beleives it will work, but since he is too stupid to realise it won't, putting him in charge would be one of the worst things that could happen.

[Akzle]

just think of mashy, all keen to make a difference through forcing other's to his own ideal; he even beleives it will work, but since he is too stupid to realise it won't, putting him in charge would be one of the worst things that could happen.

i'd bet my vote on him... if only to see you foaming harder at the mouth and crying about some irreverent jew shit.