Key Government out on its own. No one else to blame!

[Akzle]

Nobody made them.

odd fucken phenomenon huh?

You can apply whatever the fuck you like. I'm pickin' it'll involve minimal effort on your part.

lotion, twice daily, thoroughly rubbed in.

minimal effort. oh son if you only knew.

...anything.

Sometimes. But at best a fuckload less effectively.

effective??! usurious jewgold is EFFECTIVE?
now, i hadn't had you pegged for a stupid cunt, but that's a pretty stupid fucken statement.

And I don't give a fuck who don't see it that way, delusional cunts wouldn't survive a week past an overdue dole cheque. Nor does their idea of what's fair stack up against those who actually earned their toys, because they're likely to be better armed.

thrice lulz.
are you aware that nz's 'illegal' gangs are better armed than teh politzei? and i'd wager they shoot more boolits in a year, too.
but speaking to your average black that's going to rob you, the dole check is just a way to keep teh politzei off their case

I maintain that anyone not actually producing anything anyone else wants is completely and utterly surplus to the requirement of any economy. Now you look it up and get back to me eh?

maintain all you like. twere it not for the unemployed, your 'economoney' goes into this thing called "hyperinflation" (true story)
you just can't balance the books by "paying everyone worth anything what they're worth"

because "what they're worth"... actually isn't. especially when you use a measure as arbitrary as money. (which, of itself, is worth no more than the faith that you and your old white cronies have in it)

[Ocean1]

Please yourself.

No it's not. It's stifling our evolution.

Aha, lucky there's a financial system to spur the need for insurance... coz without a financial system there would be no need for the product.

I'm in the perfect position thanks.

Yup, that's how them thar problems are created.

Fact usually do.

Bullshit. And given your penchant for social welfare I'm astonished you'd want anything to do with evolution, it invariably doesn't come with a dole queue.

A financial system doesn't create the need for insurance. And the lack of either would be in no way superior to the current option.

Only if you insist on propagating boring bullshit.

And those not producing anything are created by those not producing anything. Nobody else.

[Scuba_Steve]

It's up there, but even if you say it's 50k too excessive, you're looking at a saving of what, 6mil? which will make fuck all difference anywhere else in the economy. How much was food for kids going to cost again?

In your opinion they do that, but not in the opinion of themselves and others. Why not? it's just management shit, they all have underlings who are clued up on the specifics of each part.

almost 8mil/yr & that's just on the backbencher wages alone, there's still the other 80 odd MP's on higher pays & all the perks to save money on as well as the "underlings" as you say

The fact they have "underlings" proves they're unqualified & if they're [the "underlings"] doing all the work as you say then again MPs pay is way excessive

I still haven't seen a good argument for high pays from you, you seem to be indoctrinated to think more money=better people. But fact is truth is generally the opposite; less pay will weed out the useless & leave the useful 8/10 times. Almost any stock marketed business would show you this

[Ocean1]

odd fucken phenomenon huh?

Very.

maintain all you like. twere it not for the unemployed, your 'economoney' goes into this thing called "hyperinflation" (true story)
you just can't balance the books by "paying everyone worth anything what they're worth"

because "what they're worth"... actually isn't. especially when you use a measure as arbitrary as money. (which, of itself, is worth no more than the faith that you and your old white cronies have in it)

Ignoring the rhetorical incontinence, answer me this: Do you buy shit?

If so do you actually pay what you think it's worth?

'Cause that's all that's required to define the value of anything, even someone's work.

Luckily ,my version is what happens in the real world.

[mashman]

Fact usually do.

Bullshit. And given your penchant for social welfare I'm astonished you'd want anything to do with evolution, it invariably doesn't come with a dole queue.

A financial system doesn't create the need for insurance. And the lack of either would be in no way superior to the current option.

Only if you insist on propagating boring bullshit.

And those not producing anything are created by those not producing anything. Nobody else.

Marriage not an option eh.

It has so far.

Please yourself.

It's a choice I make.

Bit judgmental like... and I don't think you've earned that right yet.

[FJRider]

... rbjiafp

GREEN bling ... or don't bother thanks ...





But I'm betting you CAN'T ...

[Akzle]

I'm astonished you'd want anything to do with evolution, it invariably doesn't come with a dole queue.

another odd statement to make, are you on the sherry tonight or what?

humans are aparently at the highest point of evolution yet-attained.
society has come far, made leaps and bounds and scientific advances and got to the moon and dissected whales and... (still can't explain what 98% of "stuff" is)


...and there's dole queues.

A financial system doesn't create the need for insurance.

doesn't it?
if i could get shit for free, by hook or by crook, and you remove the crook side of that equation, everyone gets everything for hook. game on!

And the lack of either would be in no way superior to the current option.

according to whom?

And those not producing anything are created by those not producing anything. Nobody else.

applying the inverse to that, those "producing anything" (by the ocean-ometer) must come from those "producing anything"....

so, me pappy, who own properties around the world, and here, vehicles on a dozen continents, property in auckland, and whose rental portfolio is worth more than even your white jew ass is going to see this year (and probably next) who blows his nose on 50s and wipes his ass with rutherfords,... somehow has instilled in me, a profound sense of...... it's all fucking bullshit.

oh but what if he'd been poor!


...just imagine how much better off i'd be!

btw, you're still the poorest cunt i know.

[Akzle]

Ignoring the rhetorical incontinence, answer me this: Do you buy shit?

If so do you actually pay what you think it's worth?

'Cause that's all that's required to define the value of anything, even someone's work.

ahhyes. ignore it if it doesn't suit.

i'll go with that!

Luckily ,my version is what happens in the real world.

real world?

jew cunt.
more people in this "real world" have never been in an automobile, than those who own one.

your world is small, and sad.

GREEN bling ... or don't bother thanks ...


But I'm betting you CAN'T ...

no, that's the point. it's a flag for when i can. all the people getting green.... and then there's that jen-gobber, murray. persistent little bitch.

[bogan]

almost 8mil/yr & that's just on the backbencher wages alone, there's still the other 80 odd MP's on higher pays & all the perks to save money on as well as the "underlings" as you say

The fact they have "underlings" proves they're unqualified & if they're [the "underlings"] doing all the work as you say then again MPs pay is way excessive

I still haven't seen a good argument for high pays from you, you seem to be indoctrinated to think more money=better people. But fact is truth is generally the opposite; less pay will weed out the useless & leave the useful 8/10 times. Almost any stock marketed business would show you this

So double it, how far would 16mil go in the for benefits etc?

No, it proves the job is high powered, too much critical decision making to be a jack of all trades.

I'm saying less money == worse people, there is a difference between that and more money == better people. Pay penuts, get monkeys is the adage, but feel free to show me how paying less leaves only the useful, because I have only ever seen the opposite.

[Ocean1]

ahhyes. ignore it if it doesn't suit.

I always ignore nonsense, it's so much more charitable that pretending it makes sense.

Whereas you ignored two perfectly coherent questions.

Also, I'm bored with your nonsense, you're just making gangster noises, which I think you'll agree is just more nonsense.

[Scuba_Steve]

So double it, how far would 16mil go in the for benefits etc?

No, it proves the job is high powered, too much critical decision making to be a jack of all trades.

I'm saying less money == worse people, there is a difference between that and more money == better people. Pay penuts, get monkeys is the adage, but feel free to show me how paying less leaves only the useful, because I have only ever seen the opposite.

more than not havin it

You said all the critical thinking is done by "underlings" & just reinforcing they're unqualified for the position. You won't listen to anything that isn't "scientific peer reviewed" but you're willing to follow & obey the decisions of someone with no knowledge of that which they are in charge... seems pretty fucking hypocritical to me

What a load of shit. Have you worked in any multinational corporation???

[bogan]

more than not havin it

You said all the critical thinking is done by "underlings" & just reinforcing they're unqualified for the position. You won't listen to anything that isn't "scientific peer reviewed" but you're willing to follow & obey the decisions of someone with no knowledge of that which they are in charge... seems pretty fucking hypocritical to me

What a load of shit. Have you worked in any multinational corporation???

But relatively, if we are to worry about funding not getting to kids, surely a packet of ciggies per bene is going to be a better focus than mp's wages; just trying to put things in perspective for you.

No, I said the specifics were known by underlings. Do you think the manager of telecos etc could go out and wire a junction box?

You still don't understand how the scientific peer review works (or even its purpose) it would seem. Carry on in rebellious ignorance, and I'll carry on happily towing the line with my enlightenment

[Akzle]

Whereas you ignored two perfectly coherent questions.

:

Ignoring the rhetorical incontinence,

[Akzle]

Also, I'm bored with your nonsense, you're just making gangster noises, which I think you'll agree is just more nonsense.

:

ahhyes. ignore it if it doesn't suit.

[Scuba_Steve]

No, I said the specifics were known by underlings. Do you think the manager of telecos etc could go out and wire a junction box?

You still don't understand how the scientific peer review works (or even its purpose) it would seem. Carry on in rebellious ignorance, and I'll carry on happily towing the line with my enlightenment

No & that's the problem, they're controlling things they know nothing about

I understand it & my statement still stands. But I will carry on my rebellious open mindedness & scepticism