Key Government out on its own. No one else to blame!

[Akzle]

I tried, didn't have the option; best I could find was ice-cream & llamas so I voted for that...

im cool with that

[mstriumph]

WTF.... Mum?

what, you thought you were SAFE here??

[mstriumph]

LOL you are kidding right?

There are 66 different parties in Australia which voters can elect.

Just a few:

Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party

Australian Democrats

Building Australia Party

Democratic Labour Party

Socialist Alliance Party

Uniting Australia Party

http://www.aec.gov.au/parties_and_re...tered_parties/



If Aussie voters can't find something they like in all of those choices, pity help them.

Try to point our the one guaranteed not to lie, cheat and misappropriate once it's elected (if a large party) or associate/align with those that do (if it's a small party) and you'll see the dilemma thinking, well-intentioned voters are in. "Crisis of confidence" Bro.....

[mashman]

what, you thought you were SAFE here??

Yes, but I forgot about your omnipotence. It won't happen again.

[mstriumph]

Under MMP the local candidates can do all of that, win their electorate and still lose their constituent's party vote. Labour actually won just 5 electorates by party votes.

Most of the idiots here slinging shit about not voting as a protest agin' "the system" seem to have overlooked that little nugget: you can be as personable, friendly, helpful and competent as a candidate can well be but unless your party's policy represents what the voters want you simply won't get to implement them.

I wonder how many picked that effect could be quite so decisive when they voted for MMP...

OK I'm dense ... doesn't that mean that MPs have to be very careful with whom to align themselves? ...and parties (social credit back in 80s) have to be equally careful about ensuring the electorate are fully informed?

the Aus system is similarly stacked against cause and effect clarity ... but, as my Grandfather used to say, "If the vote was actually worth anything, they'd never let you have one"

[mstriumph]

will need photos...for comparative porpoises,..

how come there's always something fishy about your posts?

[Akzle]

how come there's always something fishy about your posts?

have a wash ya dirty bitch

[SPman]

LOL you are kidding right?

There are 66 different parties in Australia which voters can elect.

Just a few:

Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party

Australian Democrats

Building Australia Party

Democratic Labour Party

Socialist Alliance Party

Uniting Australia Party

http://www.aec.gov.au/parties_and_re...tered_parties/



If Aussie voters can't find something they like in all of those choices, pity help them.

Aussie voters can have a voting paper with 66 names on it ...most NZ voters can't even work out how to vote twice - the electorate vote is a nice simple FPP vote, but the party vote.......seems to throw most of them every election.

[mstriumph]

have a wash ya dirty bitch

good grief - i've been misuderstood ...........

[Ocean1]

OK I'm dense ... doesn't that mean that MPs have to be very careful with whom to align themselves? ...and parties (social credit back in 80s) have to be equally careful about ensuring the electorate are fully informed?

the Aus system is similarly stacked against cause and effect clarity ... but, as my Grandfather used to say, "If the vote was actually worth anything, they'd never let you have one"

MPs are aligned to a party well before they ask for your vote.

It seems obvious that labour voters liked their local guy and voted for him as a mark of confidence in him but they resoundingly voted against the Labour Party and its policy.

I can understand that, it reeks of pure Union ideology which most have long since seen as counterproductive and even those few who benefit from it are so well fed as to be indifferent.

[Ocean1]

Aussie voters can have a voting paper with 66 names on it ...most NZ voters can't even work out how to vote twice - the electorate vote is a nice simple FPP vote, but the party vote.......seems to throw most of them every election.

Either that or they simply don't agree with you.

Hard to call...

[Brian d marge]

be the same as the Scotland vote , the scared , the uniformed , and the old ....voting for the status Quo ....

John Key ...is a self serving Narcissist.... lost in the glory of money ...

He , and the rest of them do NOT have your best interest at heart ....

On record ... they will follow the IMF doctrine , as given to them by the RBNZ ....

it will produce , a society of which 20 % will need help , 70 % will just be one fk up away from poverty ...and a few , as fawned upon by fairfax media will profit

Not a society I want to live in or raise my children in ....

Stephen

Strange , when one starts to think , china or Russia might be a better place ,,,,hahhahahahahaaa turn up for the books ! who would have thunk it !

[avgas]

wheres the 'send all politicians into the sun' choice?

I'd just be happy with 1 less PAID seat in the house.

It's a bit like filling up the car with gas every day - even though you know there is a hole in the tank.

[avgas]

Strange , when one starts to think , china or Russia might be a better place ,,,,hahhahahahahaaa turn up for the books ! who would have thunk it !

My team in Crimea are loving the change. They now feel less like slaves.
As for china. Meh - same problems there. Living in Greenwich, CT......you see enough ex-Chinese officials driving Benz's to know something is wrong.

[mashman]

Strange , when one starts to think , china or Russia might be a better place ,,,,hahhahahahahaaa turn up for the books ! who would have thunk it !

You not fed up with running away from it yet?