Key Government out on its own. No one else to blame!

[mashman]

We are talking all forms of violence to change the system ...

Political assassination (I wonder how long before the GCSB or the SIS come along again .. speaking of which that shithead hasn't been here for a while)

General uprising ... armed of course - Godzone has oen of the heaviest armed civilian population in the world,

BUT the use of violence can only be used at the intersection of theory and practice - praxis - and with a full understanding of the historic moment and the consequences.

In Godzone at this moment, there is nothing to suggest that the use of violence would achieve the desired end ... see the Baader-Meinhoff and their failed attempts - it was the wrong historic moment in German for violence of that kind.

However, if the TPPA is signed off, a couple of years down the track and Godzone has demonstrably lost its sovereignty and the historic moment where violence would achieve the desired end might be closer than people think.

Don't forget the legislated violence that is pushed against the people of a country by their govts for crimes that simply aren't.

General Uprising = NZ Civil War?

Timing is everything I guess.

What about a peaceful coup using the democratic system and a carrot?

... aye, there'll be an uprising of people that will vote labour or green etc... I see no other outcome. IF it did happen as you suggest, it'd be like many other uprising... people congregating into spaces demanding change, left to stew for a while, intimidated by the cops a bit, then dispersed under threat of violence via loss of liberty, before fizzling back into arse rheem central. I say this citing everything from the Arab Spring to any events that are ongoing in the world today as evidence me lud. The TPPA is a single issue, and a single issue will only ever be protested.

[Brian d marge]

nearest nz got to civil up rising was the waterfront and or the springbox


ho hum

knit one pearl 2
Motorhead-Eat the Rich: http://youtu.be/h45WnW0ASFY

The Exploited-Chaos is my Life: http://youtu.be/hzIFIfibsC0

aged . . .#hearingaidsoff

[Ocean1]

its recent bid for independence . . .possibly the banking state and its subdefuge

Voted out. Just like socialism in NZ.

What's your point?

[Brian d marge]

Voted out. Just like socialism in NZ.

What's your point?

the one u missed

and the one many understand

[pete376403]

Remember this?

[mada]

Remember this?

Haha yeah, they need to do a remake with Key as Volkner.

[avgas]

That's interesting and good to know. Tech is the way to go but every other nation is trying to do the same so it's not easy.

Here is a diagram I came across but tech and tourism are in addition to these figures. Still, US$38 billion bears out my point that as a nation we are still primary producers and its hard to see a way out of that.

MFAT and NZTE have no idea how the NZ economy works. Most ministers in this got a degree in economics many moons ago and seem to think that the world still turns to a 1950's beat.

Imagine America without Silicon Valley? NZ has the similar problem with perception.....and Graeme Hart is laughing all the way to his next super yacht with this foolishness. A quick look at the NZX50 and you soon realize that the idea of the land making the living in NZ is vastly changing.
Also the figures are a little out - Fonterra (lets admit they are the biggest player in this game) make a significant proportion of there money (I've heard as high as 70%) by stuff that has never touched NZ soil.

[husaberg]

MFAT and NZTE have no idea how the NZ economy works. Most ministers in this got a degree in economics many moons ago and seem to think that the world still turns to a 1950's beat.

Imagine America without Silicon Valley? NZ has the similar problem with perception.....and Graeme Hart is laughing all the way to his next super yacht with this foolishness. A quick look at the NZX50 and you soon realize that the idea of the land making the living in NZ is vastly changing.
Also the figures are a little out - Fonterra (lets admit they are the biggest player in this game) make a significant proportion of there money (I've heard as high as 70%) by stuff that has never touched NZ soil.

Un fortunately Fontera is going down the path of outside investers and will son no longer be a co-op, The spiel is the farmers will all son become rich from dividends but this will come from their payout....... LOL

[Brian d marge]

shonkey playing ice hockey

not

Putin on ice: President plays hockey with former …: http://youtu.be/rEwzaozwfDI

[oldrider]

shonkey playing ice hockey Putin on ice: President plays hockey with former …:

Vlad always looks different to the man the Western media news prints up of him!

I wonder how they would react to BRICSANZ banking ... if the ANZACS signed up with BRICS bank instead of fighting their stupid self made ISIS war?

[blue rider]

rock star economy

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_...HOTPOct14.aspx

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11367194

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/economy/ne...ectid=11367204

[blue rider]

math, they have done some

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11173948

[buggerit]

math, they have done some

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11173948

Fuckwits, the ANZACS must be rolling in their graves wondering why the fuck they bothered.

[Scuba_Steve]

"He said the Government was happy to have reduced its exposure to risky commercial assets like the companies in the asset sales programme."

what like power companies that pretty much everyone relies on & don't seem to be going away anytime soon... sounds risky to me; guess now tho they can invest in "safe" things like property development and stock market

[Brian d marge]

math, they have done some

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11173948

``anyone can own these assets" but a more important role for the Crown was to use its balance sheet to manage the risks of natural disasters, social failure and long term welfare dependency


soooo it was the bastid unemployed that fked up the asset sales

damn those unemployed people lazin around fixin to ruin the country

how can one set an example to america .when these . . . . people undermine ones efforts

stephen