Key Government out on its own. No one else to blame!

[Scuba_Steve]

Being money hungry is not a qualification. But, those who are qualified should be paid a commensurate amount, otherwise they would just find other employ. Might seem backwards to you, but just think of mashy, all keen to make a difference through forcing other's to his own ideal; he even beleives it will work, but since he is too stupid to realise it won't, putting him in charge would be one of the worst things that could happen.

But we don't have that, we have unqualified people getting paid a decent amount well in excess of commensurate & still forcing other's to their own ideal (or more their backers). So you're still not making a valid or even good argument

[Ocean1]

I don't mind paying taxes for some people to just get by in a world that does not provide enough jobs for the population, irrespective of how they live their lives. Ya get what ya pay for.

As many as possible. Screw the consequences. Triffic solution man.

The world doesn't exist to provide employment. Those who choose to live their lives without bludging on others, however usually manage to produce enough of something marketable to feed their kids. Usually more.

Stop blaming every other fucker for the personal failings of dole bludgers, they deserve exactly what their effort is worth: fuck all.

[Ocean1]

umm ...yea sure why not

That's the only quantifiable fraud your study could find, wasn't it?

The rest, they said was pure guesswork, no?

So if there is a great deal of tax related fraud but high income earners pay almost all of the net tax then why would you blame them for avoiding tax? Or for evading it for that matter?

Seems to me they pay far, far more than their fair share already, why not blame low income earners for failing to provide at least as much tax as they spend?

[Flip]

All I have to say is "GO WINSTON!"

[blue rider]

we are so lucky to have the business savvy (all the way to business 301) peeps from National run the country, cause if someone else did....those loony greens, or those feeble reds or any other of the others we would be knee deep in a shit pool....but as I said..we are soooooo lucky to have team key and blinglish looking after us.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...pay-back-loans

The Government's flagship health cost-cutting scheme has taken out millions of dollars worth of taxpayer-funded loans, despite concerns it could not pay a cent back, new documents reveal.

Once dubbed a government "ponzi scheme" by district health boards (DHBs), Health Benefits Limited (HBL) has been granted more than $10 million in loans by the Government. HBL was also given three separate extensions to the deadline to pay the money back, amid concerns the original deadline would leave the crown entity insolvent.

HBL was set up by former health minister Tony Ryall in 2010 to save DHBs $750 million over six years by establishing shared contracts for key hospital services.

But documents show the group took out an initial $8m "short-term credit facility", or a low-interest loan, from the Government in July 2013 so it could develop three detailed business cases for its food services and linen and laundry services and its National Infrastructure Platform programmes.

In a June 2013 letter HBL chairman Ted van Arkel told the Government the loan would be an "interim step" while the group worked with both the Ministry of Health and Treasury to establish a "long-term capital structure".

[mashman]

The world doesn't exist to provide employment. Those who choose to live their lives without bludging on others, however usually manage to produce enough of something marketable to feed their kids. Usually more.

Stop blaming every other fucker for the personal failings of dole bludgers, they deserve exactly what their effort is worth: fuck all.

So what's it here for? and what is the financial economy supposed to be achieving? Aye, those who choose to live their lives without bludging accept that there is a price to pay for being "self-reliant". Yet still get shat on when their shit hits the fan in some way... unless they're insured yo.

heh... I'm merely accepting my share of responsibility for my part in the creation of an environment that not only creates dole bludgers, but drives men to legalise murder... among other things. I'd suggest that you looked at doing the same, but you seem full of hate towards anyone that you deem, or has been deemed according to the law of averages i.e. the market, to be unrequired and nought more than an oxygen breather.

[mashman]

i'd bet my vote on him... if only to see you foaming harder at the mouth and crying about some irreverent jew shit.

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[mashman]

Govt not doing enough for disabled kids... care to budget.

[blue rider]

personal responsibility,
obviously they have none....blugders, no good nothings, lazy kids, and their lazy hand out expecting families.......go live under a bridge in northland and be quiet.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ref=NZH_FBpage

The cut has been achieved both by tightening criteria and by simply not publicising the allowance.

[SPman]

The world doesn't exist to provide employment. Those who choose to live their lives without bludging on others, however usually manage to produce enough of something marketable to feed their kids. Usually more.

Stop blaming every other fucker for the personal failings of dole bludgers, they deserve exactly what their effort is worth: fuck all.

Aaahh, the world is so black and white to you, nicht wahr?

Empathy and compassion aren't your strong points, are they!

[willytheekid]

Govt not doing enough for disabled kids... care to budget.

personal responsibility,
obviously they have none....blugders, no good nothings, lazy kids, and their lazy hand out expecting families.......go live under a bridge in northland and be quiet.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ref=NZH_FBpage

"Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members -- the last, the least, and the littlest."

...speaks volumes about our nation's new "direction"

little Kids!...disabled KIWI KIDS!!!...and our Govn't is taking a running fucking kick at them


Just shameful!...there is no other word for it...its shameful!

[buggerit]

"Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members -- the last, the least, and the littlest."

...speaks volumes about our nation's new "direction"

little Kids!...disabled KIWI KIDS!!!...and our Govn't is taking a running fucking kick at them


Just shameful!...there is no other word for it...its shameful!

Im sure some public servants received a healthy bonus for that little gem

[bogan]

But we don't have that, we have unqualified people getting paid a decent amount well in excess of commensurate & still forcing other's to their own ideal (or more their backers). So you're still not making a valid or even good argument

Why do you feel they are unqualified?

Their salaries are not excessive either. 140k per year or something isn't it?

[Ocean1]

So what's it here for?

It wasn’t made, how can it have a purpose?

what is the financial economy supposed to be achieving?

Production. Meaning advances in living standards and potential for human societies. Specifically; regulation such that entrepreneurial, productive and hard work are rewarded.

Aye, those who choose to live their lives without bludging accept that there is a price to pay for being "self-reliant". Yet still get shat on when their shit hits the fan in some way... unless they're insured yo.

The correct price to pay for being self reliant is simply that you earn what you spend. That includes insurance against a rainy day. There’s nothing remotely reasonable about expecting self-reliant people to support those that can’t be bothered.

heh... I'm merely accepting my share of responsibility for my part in the creation of an environment that not only creates dole bludgers, but drives men to legalise murder... among other things. I'd suggest that you looked at doing the same, but you seem full of hate towards anyone that you deem, or has been deemed according to the law of averages i.e. the market, to be unrequired and nought more than an oxygen breather.

Good on you. More rational people note that they’re not responsible for the creation of any such thing, and can’t see any reason to pay anyone for doing fuck all, especially where that requires thems to work harder for nothing in order to do so.

Averages has fuck all to do with dole bludgers. Nor does the economy, any financial system or god himself actually require dole bludgers. They are the result of their own inability to produce anything anyone else wants, simple as that.

[Ocean1]

Aaahh, the world is so black and white to you, nicht wahr?

Empathy and compassion aren't your strong points, are they!

No, there's a bunch of wishy washy pink lurking about the fringes.

Au contraire, I see the majority of Kiwis have been made beneficiaries by our democratic system, by the simple arithmetic of selling their vote to the highest bidder, and I see that depriving the, maybe 1% actually incapable of earning a decent living of any compassion whatsoever.

Not to mention the appalling waste of time, effort and oportunity necessarily inherent in a system that makes the most productive less so in order to reward those that aren't.

You really do look fucking ridiculous up there on that mangy high horse.