Key Government out on its own. No one else to blame!

[mashman]

If you're that concerned about the wider community, why do you spend so much time talking shit on the interweb when you could be helping out somewhere?

Training and biding my time.

[Ocean1]

Oh it's working just fine for me on a personal level... but taking into consideration the wider community, no, it's not working for me.

Just how wide is that consideration? Which bits of the community in particular are worse off than their parents were?

Fuck, a common or garden dole bludger nowadays has a lifestyle his granpappy would have killed for. Possibly actually did kill for.

Nah, the only people this side of prison walls that are even vaguely "poor" have made a tremendous effort to escape wealth, and none of the above should be considered "community".

Just as you make extraordinary accommodations with just about every positive factual indicator of social and financial improvements in order to continue to pretend we're all doomed.

[MisterD]

How's the wage parity going between Aus and NZ? The Drift hasn't reversed, we still have thousands more kiwis leaving to Aus than staying, it's just that our net arrivals (new migrants - Chinese, Indian, Fillipino ) are now slightly more than those leaving.

"Thousands", well 3400 more left to Aussie than arrived from, to be precise. That's the lowest it's been in about 20 years and pretty bloody good considering the relative size of the labour markets.

Source: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/01/mi...lls_again.html

[Ocean1]

"Thousands", well 3400 more left to Aussie than arrived from, to be precise.

And the mean IQ of both has improved as a direct result...

[mashman]

Just how wide is that consideration? Which bits of the community in particular are worse off than their parents were?

Fuck, a common or garden dole bludger nowadays has a lifestyle his granpappy would have killed for. Possibly actually did kill for.

Nah, the only people this side of prison walls that are even vaguely "poor" have made a tremendous effort to escape wealth, and none of the above should be considered "community".

Just as you make extraordinary accommodations with just about every positive factual indicator of social and financial improvements in order to continue to pretend we're all doomed.

My consideration encompasses every single man, woman and child on this planet.

... what, is that what the statistics tell you?

That another report huh? Tell that to the people working 2 jobs to support kids they barely gets to see... let alone nurture into adulthood.

Factual talk about burying ones head in the sand.

I'd call you an ignorant fuck, but you're a part of the entitlement brigade and par for the course of maintaining that persona is that you need to distance yourself from those people by referring to them as lazy fuckers where in reality you tight entitlement fuckwits aren't paying enough. That son, is a fact!

[Scuba_Steve]

"Thousands", well 3400 more left to Aussie than arrived from, to be precise. That's the lowest it's been in about 20 years and pretty bloody good considering the relative size of the labour markets.

Source: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/01/mi...lls_again.html

course that wouldn't have anything to do with the Ozzy job market now would it??? Course not, National single handedly did it by [fill blank with own naive view here]
National are worthless waste of money just like the Labour before them

[Oscar]

I'd call you an ignorant fuck, but you're a part of the entitlement brigade and par for the course of maintaining that persona is that you need to distance yourself from those people by referring to them as lazy fuckers where in reality you tight entitlement fuckwits aren't paying enough. That son, is a fact!

So by "entitlement brigade", you mean people who have worked hard to get where they are?
People that piss you off by not listening to your whinging?

[mashman]

course that wouldn't have anything to do with the Ozzy job market now would it??? Course not, National single handedly did it by [fill blank with own naive view here]
National are worthless waste of money just like the Labour before them

That's just silly talk. It's up there with claiming that people have a better lifestyle today than their grandparents did, despite the fact that 6% unemployment back then was far less people than the 6% who are unemployed today. If the govt are gonna hide behind reports, then they will believe that there are no issues to address. At that point in time they can tell everyone that they're living in a brighter future with a higher standard of living than their relatives... despite the obvious and absolute fact that there are more people unemployed today than back in the day, irrespective of how far society and the associated lifestyle is claimed to have come.

[MisterD]

course that wouldn't have anything to do with the Ozzy job market now would it???

Of course it's got everything to do with the Aussie job market, the point being that National have managed to sail a reasonably steady ship, whereas the Aussies have fucked it up royally. I'm not cheerleading the Nats, just saying that they've done an OK job and deserve at least a grudging acknowledgement of that.

[mashman]

So by "entitlement brigade", you mean people who have worked hard to get where they are?
People that piss you off by not listening to your whinging?

Look it up fuzzball.
As they're a tiny minority they have my sympathy.

[Oscar]

Look it up fuzzball.
As they're a tiny minority they have my sympathy.

"Fuzzball"?
Some parts of me are quite hairy, but fuzzball is probably overdoing it.

[Brian d marge]

Just how wide is that consideration? Which bits of the community in particular are worse off than their parents were?

Fuck, a common or garden dole bludger nowadays has a lifestyle his granpappy would have killed for. Possibly actually did kill for.

Nah, the only people this side of prison walls that are even vaguely "poor" have made a tremendous effort to escape wealth, and none of the above should be considered "community".

Just as you make extraordinary accommodations with just about every positive factual indicator of social and financial improvements in order to continue to pretend we're all doomed.

Damn ...I didnt know my granddad had access to computers , Robotic production lines , JIT production methods and all the other stuff that kinda helps with modern life ...

Still Im heartened to know that , the basics of food, shelter and health are still a strain on most peoples budget some things never change, and that those feckless layabouts are running riot with this country's economy...just like they did back in the day .....

even though less than 1/2 of the social welfare budget is spent on the unemployed ........


I still have that water side utility in Auckland for sale if you are interested ..... you should be able to get a zero interest loan ... its a great revenue generator ,,,,what with all those speed cameras

Stephen

[mashman]

"Fuzzball"?
Some parts of me are quite hairy, but fuzzball is probably overdoing it.

I'm bald all over so by default you're a hairy cunt which ever way I choose to cut it.

[Brian d marge]

So by "entitlement brigade", you mean people who have worked hard to get where they are?

Thats the ones , the ones whom student loans , heat and light costs, housing .... all the kinda," basic stuff" hadnt felt the pressure of privatised speculation,,,,

ahh yes, the days when a fair day work , entitled you to a fair day pay ......

and if one worked hard and doffed the cap sometimes to his Lordship , one could rise though the ranks to lead a comfortable retirement ......

I all ready had a buyer in mind for my Auckland water front utility ...but if ya quick and offer me the right price I may let ya have it .....for the right price of course ...

I have made a small modification to it which, I think adds value ...but as I say make me an offer !

[Oscar]

Thats the ones , the ones whom student loans , heat and light costs, housing .... all the kinda," basic stuff" hadnt felt the pressure of privatised speculation,,,,

ahh yes, the days when a fair day work , entitled you to a fair day pay ......

and if one worked hard and doffed the cap sometimes to his Lordship , one could rise though the ranks to lead a comfortable retirement ......

I all ready had a buyer in mind for my Auckland water front utility ...but if ya quick and offer me the right price I may let ya have it .....for the right price of course ...

I have made a small modification to it which, I think adds value ...but as I say make me an offer !

Student loan?
What student loan?
You never experienced the state running things like power and telecom did you?

As for the rest of your ravings, I am self employed - who shall I doff my cap too?