Key Government out on its own. No one else to blame!

[mada]

Oh aye, there's a slice of luck involved in shaping most countries circumstances. Like the luck we have in the ridiculous ease with which we produce sheep and milk.

But the earn first, spend later ethic is a required feature of any successful nation, no matter what they earn, or whatever their luck.

"Investing" in education to the extent the taxpayer used to do returned fuck all economic benefit, if you desperately want to study underwater tourist basket weaving you should probably be paying for it yourself. I have no problem with paying to train anyone in the skills required to grow the country.

Pretty sure you will find that the value that the country gets from investing in tertiary education is lot less and the results a lot less productive after the tertiary education sector was deregulated, reformed and introduced to its market ways in the 90s than before when it was tighter controlled but free... the costs just keep ballooning and ballooning.

And those circumstances... we are surrounded by abundance but cant even manage it... instead we'd rather sell it off to Oravida and watch them milk billions from pretty much every productive primary resource from water, kauri, timber, lamb, honey, fruit, dairy farming, land development, to seafood. I see they just appointed Jenny Shipley as a new boardmember.. Good game New Zealanders, we'll all be renters in our own country in no time with nothing left to make a dime from - maybe low wage earning young NZ girls with pony tails will be the last frontier of pillagable resources and commodities left - must be what Key is thinking.

Look at how the government helped Northland out:

Today the Northland Environmental Protection Society released a photo of a rare native orchid where the majority of the world population was wiped out a few months ago by illegal swamp kauri mining.

“This could only happen by illegal digging” says Fiona Furrell, Chairperson on the Northland Environmental Protection Society. “Any wetland with threatened species is protected from drainage and swamp kauri mining and it is up to the Regional Council to enforce this”.

“The Ministry of Primary Industry has been ignoring the law time and again. The Government Agency even gave a milling statement over important wetland areas that had an Environmental Court order to stop all works over it at the time. This is the tip of the iceberg,” she said.

“Illegal swamp kauri trade could be stopped if the Far North District Council, Northland Regional Council and the Ministry of Primary Industries actually did their enforcement work that we pay them to do”, said Mrs Furrell.

At Oravida’s sawmill and stockpiling yard at Ruakaka alone a timber industry insider has recently said there were 80,000 tonnes of swamp kauri. The average price for swamp kauri in New Zealand is $5000-$8000/m3. This means the recent Oravida stockpile is conservatively worth $400,000,000

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There's a reason we needed upgraded roads... probably nothing to do with helping kiwis in the regions out:

“Every day and night trucks with huge swamp kauri logs and stumps are trucked south along State Highway One and 10. Each truckload is worth between $10,000 and over $5 million. Where is the money going?” said Dean Baigent-Mercer, Chairperson of the Far North branch of Forest and Bird.

During the Press political debate this week Prime Minister John Key said that new jobs in Northland would come from ‘exploration and mining’. But mining of swamp kauri has been in full swing, particularly for the last four years and what real advantage has the district seen?”

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK140...extinction.htm

[mashman]

Its the best place to be . . . . Back in the day . . . .one would come . . Back from the pub . . . Czech cartoon or open university on tv .somehow i could understand the open university . . . But the czech cartoon . . .was always beyond me then. . . . . a can or two of stones best bitter before heading out again for a kebab

So i might have a chance with this yiddish document for global domination

Bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... That Czech cartoon was the test card. You failed the test.

Oh I think so. Don't tell anyone, but it's the Pinky and the Brain script.

[Brian d marge]

Bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... That Czech cartoon was the test card. You failed the test.

Oh I think so. Don't tell anyone, but it's the Pinky and the Brain script.

No fair they are impossible

https://youtu.be/m9Gy3qVnsj0


Now the test card. . . . . Fapfap fap

[mashman]

No fair they are impossible

https://youtu.be/m9Gy3qVnsj0


Now the test card. . . . . Fapfap fap

Fortunately not infallible either

bwaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa... sick fuck.

[Swoop]

You're mixing this up with the English political scene... the English are always busy tugging boys. Dodgy bastards all.

I think you are confusing them with the catholics...

Agreed about irrigation in Canterbury. In Canterbury, irrigation water mainly drains down into the gravel beds or is evaporated by the hot winds and sun. Bloody looney to try and turn it into a garden...

Canterbury is only good for sheep farming. This fact was known after the turn of the century and the cattle farming scum should be required to source their water from the sky, NOT from rivers.

Our iwi has flattened a forest to convert to dairy with fast growing mega irrigated grass. Well done retards.

Are you calling Maori retards now?

[oldrider]

Canterbury is only good for sheep farming. This fact was known after the turn of the century and the cattle farming scum should be required to source their water from the sky, NOT from rivers.

Hmm OK - but where do you think the rivers get their water from?

[Brian d marge]

Are you calling Maori retards now?

It just SO happens that these Idiots are Maori

But I shouldn't have needed to spell that out.

[blue rider]

this is very funny for once


https://www.facebook.com/SoHoChannel...8195264935293/

John Oliver and his take on the right honorable hair tugger in chief.

but its only him who gets to tug hair in a sport called horsing around.....dear bronagh must cover her hair up, lest the saudis find it tantalising

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...t-saudi-arabia

Covering up is essential - and when Bronagh Key travels to Riyadh with her husband she will wear an abaya (loose fitting robes) and a headscarf. Michelle Obama famously defied the conservative convention when she visited earlier this year.

"We had a discussion about that. In the end, I think it is a matter of accepting and appreciating their culture... that is just a reflection of respecting their culture," the prime minister said.

"So, yep, Michelle Obama went there and didn't wear the abaya but she did completely cover herself up from the ankles to the wrists."

Bronagh Key paid a visit to Sheikha Fatima bint Mubarak Al Ketbi, mother of Abu Dhabi's Crown Prince, on Sunday. John Key said she would be talking about women's rights.

yes, rejoice, dear Bronagh will wear a bedsheet, and discuss womens rights with with the Mother of the Crown Prince.


file this under :shit ya can't make up, and this is the very bestest prime minister evah.

[Brian d marge]

Hahahahahahaa

Shitty media can work both ways

[unstuck]

I so want one of these.............

[husaberg]

Agreed about irrigation in Canterbury. Shallow porous soils made up mainly of sand and gravel. They contain little clay or organic matter which is what good soils are composed of because they soak up and retain water. In Canterbury, irrigation water mainly drains down into the gravel beds or is evaporated by the hot winds and sun. Bloody looney to try and turn it into a garden when Waikato, Taranaki, West Coast and Southland etc already have deep rich soils.

I think you are confusing them with the catholics...

Canterbury is only good for sheep farming. This fact was known after the turn of the century and the cattle farming scum should be required to source their water from the sky, NOT from rivers.

Are you calling Maori retards now?

Canterbury's land use change towards Dairy is driven by simple economies.
Sheep farming is simply uneconomic on productive land.
More land is being locked away in NZ with the surrendering of pastoral leases of the High Country

There has been a move to more intensive landuse in all areas of NZ.

I note there has been a similar % move to land use change to lifestyle blocks in Canterbury as the move to Dairy Farming.

The soil in Canterbury build Humus under Irrigation, cropping destroys it.
The high rainfalls in other areas are also not without there own environmental effect with regards to nutrient run off.
Large areas of Southland are totally unsuitable for dairy farming.

What is bloody loonacy to turn large area of NZ most productive farming areas south of Auckland and in the Waikato areas into lifestyle blocks for the horsey sect.

[Grumph]

husa - on your drive through canty, you've obviously missed the encroaching spread of lifestyle blocks here too...post quakes the populace has spread West in large numbers. And i quite agree with the soil here only being a light soil suitable for sheep...Even though I live on one of the few clay pans on the plains...
local to me there are very large areas of what were plantations which the iwi have denuded and broken up into dairy conversions...Which only once the central plains water scheme gets up and running will they be a business proposition. Even then it may be too late as the bottom's dropping out of dairy.
Local enginering co had 10 conversions to work on two years ago. two of the 10 went ahead....Lot of bare land sitting here....

[husaberg]

husa - on your drive through canty, you've obviously missed the encroaching spread of lifestyle blocks here too...post quakes the populace has spread West in large numbers. And i quite agree with the soil here only being a light soil suitable for sheep...Even though I live on one of the few clay pans on the plains...
local to me there are very large areas of what were plantations which the iwi have denuded and broken up into dairy conversions...Which only once the central plains water scheme gets up and running will they be a business proposition. Even then it may be too late as the bottom's dropping out of dairy.
Local enginering co had 10 conversions to work on two years ago. two of the 10 went ahead....Lot of bare land sitting here....

No I haven't missed them in my post I mentioned the change is land use to them is the same percentage wise as the conversions to Dairy.

[Brian d marge]

husa - on your drive through canty, you've obviously missed the encroaching spread of lifestyle blocks here too...post quakes the populace has spread West in large numbers. And i quite agree with the soil here only being a light soil suitable for sheep...Even though I live on one of the few clay pans on the plains...
local to me there are very large areas of what were plantations which the iwi have denuded and broken up into dairy conversions...Which only once the central plains water scheme gets up and running will they be a business proposition. Even then it may be too late as the bottom's dropping out of dairy.
Local enginering co had 10 conversions to work on two years ago. two of the 10 went ahead....Lot of bare land sitting here....

Now being Quite serious now
Responses from actual farmers taken
the soil in Canterbury is not so good In some areas
mono Cultures are hugely wasteful of water
yes; if ya ship milk Solids to china then Monocultures Can pay ; but think of the Trail they leave behind
insects or lack off etc
While horsey lifestyle blocks ain the answer
Many lifestyle block owners plant native trees etc or organic garden
Could small multi cropped units pay ?? and be better for all Concerned including the environment .
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[husaberg]

Now being Quite serious now
Responses from actual farmers taken
the soil in Canterbury is not so good In some areas
mono Cultures are hugely wasteful of water
yes; if ya ship milk Solids to china then Monocultures Can pay ; but think of the Trail they leave behind
insects or lack off etc
While horsey lifestyle blocks ain the answer
Many lifestyle block owners plant native trees etc or organic garden
Could small multi cropped units pay ?? and be better for all Concerned including the environment .
.

Dairying is a huge source of NZs GDP the other farming land use options in Canterbury generally don't stack up.
Canterbury is generally the most productive dairy farming of all areas of NZ.
Its a simple question of the most economic land use. as an aside small enterprises generally are highly inefficient labour wise.
Simply Canterbury is one of the best palaces in NZ to dairy farm.
Aside From it abundant sources of off farm grazing options and supply to crops and by products.
It also offers the economies of scale and farm layout due to topography.