What the fuck is this bullshit?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12151406
To be fair a condition of residency is he is not allowed to provide false information to a government agency for five years.
How many MPs can keep that up.
Look at this bullshit. No swift justice in Un Zud.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12161145
Since I'm know nothing about your local issues, let me comment on something now back a couple of pages:
Originally Posted by TheDemonLord
Well, D-Lord, last part first, these guys are like motorcyclists in thinking they can get away with what they do indefinately, and some do.
As to "just kill them," one of the regular annoyances of being an American is being lectured by all of the more "progressive" folk in the UK and Europe about our "barbaric and archaic" death penalty. The Economist, otherwise one of the few remaining newsmagazines worth reading, is unable to put out an issue without waving its finger at us. Well, I'm glad that OUR general response is to give them the finger. I say that any society which is incapable of executing, for instance, a man who rapes a little girl and then cuts off her arms and legs, has showed itself to be impotent in asserting basic justice. A man who has made thievery his life's work has cancelled his right to live among us, even as a permanently imprisoned ward of honest taxpayers.
About a year ago, I was reading and watching my clothes in a coin-op laundry when I struck up a conversation with an older (but younger than me) black man. He told me he was nearing retirement after many years as a prison guard, having worked in federal, state, and local facilities at various points. I asked him what he thought about the chances of typical inmates of actually being rehabilitated. He snorted derisively and said, "They're all wise guys! It's how they see themselves, and it's what they want to be. They think everybody cheats and works the system, and that they were just unlucky enough to get caught. They have a million excuses for this, that they had no connections, or were the wrong color, you name it." He thought a little more, and said, "Oh, there are a few who can be rehabilitated, but mostly it's a waste of time with these guys."
Cunts like this should be kicked into a hole and shot but instead they get let off multiple times until they finally do something really bad.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/n...stic-violence/
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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Criminals are not all stupid. They do not go after judges* / lawyers.
* The likelihood of a judge or judge's family being attacked / assaulted / killed is actually slightly more than two orders of magnitude less than for us gen. pop. So - judges can signal their virtue by letting the murderous / rapists etc. out on bail or free, without fear of any consequences for them. We cannot even democratically get a judge recalled. Plus, platinum-plated super, and really really short working hours.
** Remember one exception - the guy who machete-attacked Judge Augusta Wallace in chambers? Want an example of one law for thee and another for me? Check what happened to that guy...
I'm pretty good at judging people, how do I get in.?
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
And that's the point - it's not the severity of the punishment that is the real deterrent - it's the likelihood of getting Caught.
So - by what means do you use to draw the line? and then using said means - WHERE do you draw the line? I've got a fair amount of issue with the US use of the Death Penalty - FWIW - the closest country that maintains capital punishment that I agree with, would be Japan.
The main points of contention being that I don't consider a single Murder grounds for the Death Penalty, nor do I consider the redefinition of per-meditation in some states to be fractions of seconds of thought before committing the act.
Okay - so the national Average for re-offending for the US (from 2011) is 43%, For Norway - it's 20%, so half of the US.
Now - if we want a system of pain, suffering etc. - then let's bring back torture, let's go all in with the Death Penalty etc. etc. and let's take a long, hard look at ourselves when our Justice looks more like ISIS.
If, however - we want a system that unfortunate, unlucky, damaged, criminally hardened, desperate etc. individuals enter into, and leave (with an 80% success rate) as productive members of society, then perhaps it's time to rethink our approach.
I can assure you - this is not something that sits well with me either, to dispense with the 'punishment' aspect of prison seems an affront to my natural sense of Justice - and yet, I'd rather have a system that fixes or re-skills individuals so that they can come back to society and be productive.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Dude, by the time they hit pokey every single one of them has had multiple chances to behave in a way that doesn't hurt their fellow Kiwis, and declined every single one of those chances.
Every one of them has already shown that they're not prepared to be responsible for their own behavior, over and over again. Could we spend even more on "rehabilitating" them? Sure, and for some of them it might actually work. But unless you've got some new amazingly effective way to spend all that extra then the law of diminishing returns applies, and the public cost of their behavior is already hideous. Every criminal has already cost Kiwi taxpayers more than they could ever repay, even if they did straighten up and fly right, how much more do you want to spend on yet more chances?
So let's not try to pretend it's the general public's fault that criminals are criminals, eh?
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Well hang on a second there.
Ocean raises a good point that many of the Criminals have had an exceptionally disproportionate amount spent on them, made even more horrendous by the fact they both contribute nothing and cost others.
On the flip side though - there have been many well meaning, but poorly thought out programs that have cost the taxpayer lots, with little to no return on investment.
If you tell me - that with some investment, you could guarantee me that 80% of people that went through the Prison system, never went back in - I'd be interested.
Of course - if I do my Ocean impression, if that guarantee is breached, there would also have to be some form of penalty for those that failed to implement it.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Every released prisoner who does not re-offend saves the taxpayer many times the cost of rehab.
Offering no rehabilitation only ensures high rates of re-offending. This is a winning policy when a country has privately run prisons and business wants more of the taxpayers money.
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