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    It's a very good point. After all, for a system to be exploited it requires people to do exactly that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Right.

    So, if you want me (and others like me) to give any credence to your argument, then stop using and benefiting from the Economic System that you claim to oppose.

    Therein lies the problem. Namely that for all it's faults, it is still better than any of the alternatives - as evidenced by the fact that yourself still use and benefit from it.

    All we hear is 'The system is broken' and never the conversation "That we are Broken"
    You can still change the world - while living in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You can still change the world - while living in the world.
    That depends on how you go about the Change:

    Browbeating people doesn't work, trying to use force doesn't work, Trying to indoctrinate/re-educate people doesn't work, Blaming the abstract 'system' (whilst simultaneously tweeting about it on their IPhone/Android device) doesn't work.

    And that's all we see.

    Rarely do we see a deep introspection that maybe as a species we've evolved certain behaviors, and maybe the current 'System' is a manifestation of the mass desire to provide for and to satiated those behaviors.

    And maybe, if we want a better system, we have to figure out a way to both satisfy those requirements, but in a way that is more 'acceptable' and less 'damaging' (Assuming you hold those as a priori beliefs).

    But that's hard, difficult, complex and makes people dislike you by forcing them to confront their own responsibilities for the situation...

    Whereas waving a placard on the street and posting on the internet is easy and wins you virtue points.




    Oh - and FWIW (and this may come as a surprise to most of you) - but I'm quite the fan of Eco technologies, but only those that are both actual ecological improvements and also provide equal or better functionality than pre-existing technologies/methodologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Oh - and FWIW (and this may come as a surprise to most of you)
    Yeah, sorry. Are you famous or something?


    I think I missed that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    But that's hard, difficult, complex and makes people dislike you by forcing them to confront their own responsibilities for the situation...
    Thankfully I don't give a fuck if people dislike me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You can still change the world - while living in the world.
    Correct. And things are changing.Its going to be a tough ride for a lot of us but I am optimistic.
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Thankfully I don't give a fuck if people dislike me.
    It's certainly getting results.
    What's with you going on a jolly old jaunt around India anyway? That seems to fly in the face of your "anti self indulgent, gotta spend all my time changing the world" stance that you have shoved on to me when I'm off having a good time.
    I'm sure that Antisocial Personality Disorder will come to the rescue with a suitable put down to that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    That seems to fly in the face of your "anti self indulgent, gotta spend all my time changing the world" stance that you have shoved on to me when I'm off having a good time.
    Dry your eyes princess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Yeah, sorry. Are you famous or something?


    I think I missed that post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Dry your eyes princess.
    So no actual justification to you hypocrisy then, predictable, but dissapointing.
    I'm not havin a sook, my whole life is one big self indulgent jaunt, even though, I'd still be very unlikely to put a holiday on my credit card.
    No mention of the ASPD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I'm not havin a sook,
    Well that's what it sounds like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Well that's what it sounds like.
    Pathetic diversion to take the heat off you being a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Pathetic diversion to take the heat off you being a hypocrite.
    He's a hypocrite IF, the person he replaced on the plane (because the set will have been taken) was lighter than him.

    He's a hypocrite IF, the person he replaced was going to spend more into the economy of a country that's planting more trees than most to offset such activity.

    The plane was going with someone in the seat. Maybe he did the planet a favour... and accusations of hypocrisy from those that don't even try ... yeah, being called a hypocrite must sting Katman like a muthafucka when it comes form such dipshitted foundational logic . Anyhoo... I thought you were trying to be a nice guy. Maybe you need another holiday to find your inner peace. India might be good.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    He's a hypocrite IF, the person he replaced on the plane (because the set will have been taken) was lighter than him.

    He's a hypocrite IF, the person he replaced was going to spend more into the economy of a country that's planting more trees than most to offset such activity.

    The plane was going with someone in the seat. Maybe he did the planet a favour... and accusations of hypocrisy from those that don't even try ... yeah, being called a hypocrite must sting Katman like a muthafucka when it comes form such dipshitted foundational logic . Anyhoo... I thought you were trying to be a nice guy. Maybe you need another holiday to find your inner peace. India might be good.
    Regardless of all that waffle people that don't walk their own talk are hypocrites.
    And could you do me a favour, do you think you could post without using the "killingme" emoticon just once?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Regardless of all that waffle people that don't walk their own talk are hypocrites.
    Would you care to explain how going on holiday to India makes me a hypocrite?

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