New Zealand. What a back water shit hole.

[mashman]

Im smart enough to know capitalism isnt going anywhere anytime soon.

You and I both know that that ain't happening any time soon.

[TheDemonLord]

You're on a list.

If history is anything to go by, that List is the one just before the list that you are/will be on.

So I'd think carefully before rejoicing.

[Woodman]

Has Capitalism fucked it more or less than any other Economic System as yet invented?

Because despite Comrade Jacinda's efforts - we don't have (yet) the Gulags, Stasi, 'disapearances' and mass Genocides that accompany the alternative Economic Systems.

The economic system is the problem. It needs to go.

[husaberg]

[TheDemonLord]

The economic system is the problem. It needs to go.

We are the Economic System.


Meditate on that.

[jasonu]

3rd world shithole

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12264174

[Viking01]

https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/29/...gainst-measles

[onearmedbandit]

3rd world shithole

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12264174

The same shit is happening worldwide though.

[pete376403]

The same shit is happening worldwide though.

And in every case, it is not becuase the country concerned is a shithole, it's the shithole people who are dumb enough to beileve the anti vaxxers

[Woodman]

We are the Economic System.


Meditate on that.

We are heavily involved in it. But it's a fuckup. It is rampantly fucking the place. Anyone who can't see that is not honest with themselves. Or stupid.

[oldrider]

We are heavily involved in it. But it's a fuckup. It is rampantly fucking the place. Anyone who can't see that is not honest with themselves. Or stupid.

Absolutely correct - there is a cure - those who control it right now do not want to let it go - alas most of those who want to change it actually support the current controllers! -

Fix that and Bob's your uncle - no problem aye? -

[TheDemonLord]

We are heavily involved in it. But it's a fuckup. It is rampantly fucking the place. Anyone who can't see that is not honest with themselves. Or stupid.

Is it the System or those who partake and perpetuate the System that are truly at fault then?



You blame the system, but you actively take part in and benefit from it - Does that not strike you as a tad hypocritical?

[mashman]

Absolutely correct - there is a cure - those who control it right now do not want to let it go - alas most of those who want to change it actually support the current controllers! -

Fix that and Bob's your uncle - no problem aye? -

... "We" put "them" there by virtue of our economic activity. "They" are the logical outcome of any and every financial system there has ever been or will be. The evidence is undeniable, but please by all means go ahead and ignore that it is not "they" who are trashing the place, because they merely reap the rewards as the owners of production. It is "We" who are destroying the place to provide goods/services for each other. This, again, is exceptionally well evidenced. So exactly what are "They" responsible for?

[Woodman]

Is it the System or those who partake and perpetuate the System that are truly at fault then?



You blame the system, but you actively take part in and benefit from it - Does that not strike you as a tad hypocritical?

Please don't try to be more inellectualler than you are.

Yes I do use and benefit from the economic system and am increasingly unhappy about it. Doesn't change the fact that it's a fuckup.

[TheDemonLord]

Please don't try to be more inellectualler than you are.

Yes I do use and benefit from the economic system and am increasingly unhappy about it. Doesn't change the fact that it's a fuckup.

Right.

So, if you want me (and others like me) to give any credence to your argument, then stop using and benefiting from the Economic System that you claim to oppose.

Therein lies the problem. Namely that for all it's faults, it is still better than any of the alternatives - as evidenced by the fact that yourself still use and benefit from it.

All we hear is 'The system is broken' and never the conversation "That we are Broken"