New Zealand. What a back water shit hole.

**pete376403** · 17th December 2018, 18:20

compare and contrast -https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92932319/killer-hitandrun-driver-broc-kawhena-sentenced-to-four-years-in-jail

**pete376403** · 17th December 2018, 18:30

But steal money from the government and go down, no problem. Fraudster Joanne Harrison, who stole almost $720,000 while employed at the Ministry of Transport, has been denied parole for the second time.

Harrison, also known as Joanne Sharp, was sentenced in February last year to three years, seven months' jail for fraudulently obtaining the money over a four-year period.

**bikaholic** · 17th December 2018, 20:26

Originally Posted by pete376403

But steal money from the government and go down, no problem. Fraudster Joanne Harrison, who stole almost $720,000 while employed at the Ministry of Transport, has been denied parole for the second time.

Harrison, also known as Joanne Sharp, was sentenced in February last year to three years, seven months' jail for fraudulently obtaining the money over a four-year period.

She gets out next month, to be deported to the UK, with do not return instructions.

**JimO** · 18th December 2018, 06:59

Originally Posted by bikaholic

She gets out next month, to be deported to the UK, with do not return instructions.

so she will be back in 6 months then?

**Voltaire** · 18th December 2018, 08:06

There must be a lot of poor process's in place for anyone to steal money from large organisations these days and no one picks up on it.

**Ocean1** · 18th December 2018, 09:26

Originally Posted by pete376403

compare and contrast -https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92932319/killer-hitandrun-driver-broc-kawhena-sentenced-to-four-years-in-jail

Sure, no problem. Just give us all the facts the jury and judge had.

**jasonu** · 18th December 2018, 13:42

Interesting...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12178882

**pritch** · 18th December 2018, 14:23

Originally Posted by jasonu

Interesting...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12178882

As in the USA the Courts operate independently of the Government, but apparently this could come as news to the petition organisers. Of course, it's always possible that politicians could pressurise the police to appeal the sentence.

The judge gave her credit for remorse, but posting "joke" photos about the incident on Facebook wouldn't seem to indicate a high degree of remorse.

**Katman** · 18th December 2018, 16:29

Originally Posted by pritch

As in the USA the Courts operate independently of the Government, but apparently this could come as news to the petition organisers. Of course, it's always possible that politicians could pressurise the police to appeal the sentence.

The judge gave her credit for remorse, but posting "joke" photos about the incident on Facebook wouldn't seem to indicate a high degree of remorse.

Apparently the Crown Law Office have indicated that they intend to look into it.

**jasonu** · 18th December 2018, 17:05

Boo fucking hoo
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12178902

**neels** · 20th December 2018, 17:02

Originally Posted by jasonu

Boo fucking hoo
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12178902

It's interesting what people choose to be outraged about.

If the cyclist wearing headphones and not wearing a helmet hadn't gone through a red light, would the driver have carried on home without incident, and there would be no story?

What I find interesting is that she was a learner driver, presumably being supervised, in someone else's car. Does the person supervising her have any responsibility in relation to the accident? If not, why do learner drivers need someone to supervise them if they are blameless when an accident occurs.

The media spin is also quite fascinating, like reporting the make of car she was driving but omitting to mention that it wasn't hers, the sort of detail that probably wouldn't be bothered with if it was a toyota corolla.

In the end, there were 2 people not taking adequate responsibility for their own and other people's safety and one of them ended up dead, the outcome for one of the families is a lot worse than the other but they will all be affected for the rest of their lives.

On a similar theme....

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...and-not-others

**Drew** · 21st December 2018, 16:49

Originally Posted by neels

It's interesting what people choose to be outraged about.

If the cyclist wearing headphones and not wearing a helmet hadn't gone through a red light, would the driver have carried on home without incident, and there would be no story?

What I find interesting is that she was a learner driver, presumably being supervised, in someone else's car. Does the person supervising her have any responsibility in relation to the accident? If not, why do learner drivers need someone to supervise them if they are blameless when an accident occurs.

The media spin is also quite fascinating, like reporting the make of car she was driving but omitting to mention that it wasn't hers, the sort of detail that probably wouldn't be bothered with if it was a toyota corolla.

In the end, there were 2 people not taking adequate responsibility for their own and other people's safety and one of them ended up dead, the outcome for one of the families is a lot worse than the other but they will all be affected for the rest of their lives.

On a similar theme....

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...and-not-others

Actually, no. The supervising driver is without blame in reality.

The driver is responsible for the car and everything therein.

**scumdog** · 21st December 2018, 17:07

Originally Posted by Drew

Actually, no. The supervising driver is without blame in reality.

The driver is responsible for the car and everything therein.

Supervisor can be done for DIC if the situation arose...

**FJRider** · 21st December 2018, 17:53

Originally Posted by scumdog

Supervisor can be done for DIC if the situation arose...

I know of three "Supervisors" that have been.

Takes teenage son/daughter to the pub while he/she drinks ... saves the taxi fare home.

Oh dear ... checkpoint .... Hey ... It's OK I'm not driving ...

Fuck ...