ssHd? who has.

[Akzle]

i'm considering things. many things.
i like the idea of having "my computer" installed on portable media. and i tend to thrash things. so solid state technology looks the shiz.
so my thinking is USB3.0 /esata connectable portable storage. preferable self powered (2.5", ie)
my current running OS is only 27gb, and it's not exactly a lightweight install... so i could trim some weight, it just feels very, very odd, to buy a disk with "only" 128gb...

so i'd like, if anyone knows anything, some IRL feedbacks on hybrid - sshd, drives, compared to pure SSD, compared, even, to a 32b flash dongle..(i see a 128gb usb3 dong is about teh same price as an SSD....)
techs?

[bogan]

Just get a proper SSD you pleb. I looked into mobo with hybrid drive tech (as opposed to a drive doing the same like an sshd) but even 3 years ago and with 256gig it made more sense to go with an SSD. Iirc, long story short was all the caching writes to the SSD part were detrimental to its expected lifetime and didn't speed it up that much anyway.

[Imagineering]

I am presuming you are not talking Laptop, If so stop reading here.

If you have the room, Use an SSHD for your OS and fit a large SATA Dive for Data, Programs etc.
That way you will have a blindingly fast Bootup time and relatively quick File access as all the major work of File finding & File access is done on the SSHD.

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[Akzle]

Just get a proper SSD you pleb. I looked into mobo with hybrid drive tech (as opposed to a drive doing the same like an sshd) but even 3 years ago and with 256gig it made more sense to go with an SSD. Iirc, long story short was all the caching writes to the SSD part were detrimental to its expected lifetime and didn't speed it up that much anyway.

yes, but to go back to the original, how does SSD compare to flash drive or SSHD?
i am going to be hdparming the fuck out of it. apparently keeping them overprovisioned and <50GB/day and you get >10,000cycles out of each sector. anyway, that wasn't really my question.

I am presuming you are not talking Laptop, If so stop reading here.

If you have the room, Use an SSHD for your OS and fit a large SATA Dive for Data, Programs etc.
That way you will have a blindingly fast Bootup time and relatively quick File access as all the major work of File finding & File access is done on the SSHD.

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i am talking everything. ie, i carry my PC on media, and plug it into anyshit (multiarch FTW) boot, and i am in MY pc.
if it was for a static rig, and i gave a fuck about how much coffee i drink while booting, then yeah, i'd go that way. but, in that situ, what would be the advantage of ssHd, since most of the write goes on the mech disk?

[bogan]

yes, but to go back to the original, how does SSD compare to flash drive or SSHD?
i am going to be hdparming the fuck out of it. apparently keeping them overprovisioned and <50GB/day and you get >10,000cycles out of each sector. anyway, that wasn't really my question.

Then google some test results, you fucking shitty.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ssd+sshd+mechan...ive+speed+test

[TheDemonLord]

SSD are Sex for your PC - Boot times are massively increased

I have a 60Gb boot drive for my OS only - and then 2 normal HDDs in RAID-0 for my games

at some point when I get visited by the magical money fairy I intend to get 2 128 Gb SSDs for my Raid Array

[HenryDorsetCase]

I am presuming you are not talking Laptop, If so stop reading here.

If you have the room, Use an SSHD for your OS and fit a large SATA Dive for Data, Programs etc.
That way you will have a blindingly fast Bootup time and relatively quick File access as all the major work of File finding & File access is done on the SSHD.

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I just got a quote for a new PC for work and that is the setup they have recommended.

[bogan]

Just an FYI, SSD != SSHD, the H stands for hybrid halfassery and uses a small solid state drive to cache from the mechanical drive.

The TLDR of it is:

OS/programs/games -> SSD
Movies/TV/music/stored media -> HDD
No point in a -> SSHD

As far as I'm aware all SSDs will be SATA3, and HDDs SATA2 is enough anyway.

[Akzle]

Then google some test results, you fucking shitty.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ssd+sshd+mechan...ive+speed+test

i've searched shit, which has got me to the point of asking the question. again: if you re-read (or, actually read in the first place) the OP.
i want IRL shit, from KBers. not benchmark write cached fucken testy magij faggotry.
gtfo my thread.

[bogan]

i've searched shit, which has got me to the point of asking the question. again: if you re-read (or, actually read in the first place) the OP.
i want IRL shit, from KBers. not benchmark write cached fucken testy magij faggotry.
gtfo my thread.

And KB has answered, nobody uses SSHD cos they are shit compared to SSD.
As evidenced by the plurality of benchmarks showing this.
gtfo my internet, plebby.

[TheDemonLord]

Just an FYI, SSD != SSHD, the H stands for hybrid halfassery and uses a small solid state drive to cache from the mechanical drive.

The TLDR of it is:

OS/programs/games -> SSD
Movies/TV/music/stored media -> HDD
No point in a -> SSHD

As far as I'm aware all SSDs will be SATA3, and HDDs SATA2 is enough anyway.

I am well aware of this - Azkle - Stop being a bitch and get an SSD - and don't pansy around with SSHDs

[bogan]

I am well aware of this

Yeh that was directed at Imagineering and HDC, whose tastes run to the classic, so might not be aware that SSHD does not stand for solid state hard drive...

[Akzle]

I am well aware of this - Azkle - Stop being a bitch and get an SSD - and don't pansy around with SSHDs

roger that.

but whats the advantage over usb3.0 flash drive?

[TheDemonLord]

roger that.

but whats the advantage over usb3.0 flash drive?

Okay - various things:

Assuming here you want to use the USB drive as your OS drive:

1: unless you have an internal USB port - you run a big risk of munting your OS drive if you accidentally remove the USB stick (drunken IT Master)
2: not sure if this is the case with USB3, but a Sata controller generally has good access to CPU, RAM etc. on your Mobo, not sure if your USB controller will have the same
3: SSDs use Flash chips that are designed for higher Read/Write - Flash has a limited number of times it can read/write from memory and USB Dongles, this is lower than SSD (details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling)
4: If you have a super 1337 system like me that has HDD cooling - your poor widdle USB dongle won't get any 120 mm fan goodness.
5: If you want to run any form of RAID on a Flash drive you have to do software RAID (Eugh!) as opposed to Hardware RAID

In short - stop being a cheapskate - get a SSD, watch your E-Penis grow a couple of inches and then bathe in the glory of near insta-boot

[Gremlin]

Haven't used the hybrid drives, but used SSDs a fair bit. Also used SLC SSDs for cache to HDD.

Starting to put regular MLC SSDs into desktops now, for business. Data is stored on the servers, and end user PCs normally never need more than 100GB for an OS (unless they have iTunes and plugging in their fucken iPhones which then backup). Don't forget to look up the optimisation guides for SSD setup, to keep the SSD performing well. Base setup of Win7 will turn the SSD into a pile of crud in due course due to defrag/system restore points/indexing etc. Remove hibernation, no need when an SSD is that fast, and it gives you back some space etc.

Love SSDs in my laptop, boot is fantastic. If you need large storage space then stick to HDD. 128GB SSDs are now around the $100 mark (depending on spec obviously).

USB flash drives are still volatile (inc USB3), wouldn't trust them much more than temporary storage.