Dutch biker gang to fight IS

[jasonu]

The official story on CBS showed them landing right next to the compound.... and I believe the yanks would have been dumb enough to do that.
They would not have risked ordinary soldiers (marines are not seals or delta force) humping 20km across unknown territory in a land occupied by warlords and terrorists camps.
USAF aircraft fling in from anywhere would not go unnoticed....

You sound like a genuine military operations and tactical expert. Maybe you should ring the pentagon and offer your advice. I'm sure they will appreciate the input.

[awayatc]

Yes John there has been.

_<

Mericans rescued hostage from ragtops......?
a live one...?
You sure...?

[lakedaemonian]

The official story on CBS showed them landing right next to the compound.... and I believe the yanks would have been dumb enough to do that.
They would not have risked ordinary soldiers (marines are not seals or delta force) humping 20km across unknown territory in a land occupied by warlords and terrorists camps.
USAF aircraft fling in from anywhere would not go unnoticed....

Right from the press release:

Under the cover of darkness, Special Operations forces infiltrated from CV-22 Ospreys near the remote compound in the Shabwah governate, officials said. The terrain was difficult and illumination lacking. AQAP terrorists detected the special operators as they began their final approach on foot to the compound and they began firing wildly at the Americans.

Not Marines, JSOC(which means DEVGRU, CAG, and/or Rangers) or possibly a CIF(Commander's In Extremis Force) unit.

Considering DEVGRU is rumoured to have conducted the successful rescue in Yemen of 8 regional hostages(but not westerners they were also attempting to recover) the week prior, it could have been the same Navy shooters who conducted this operation.

The Osprey isn't the best platform(slow transition) to directly insert shooters onto a target, that's the job of MH-6 little birds.

Hence the common offset infil approaching via an unpopulated route, and legging it in.

It has been done literally thousands of times in the past decade+

[R650R]

http://shareverything.com/2014/12/18...-used-by-isis/

A Texas plumber says he has no idea how his old company truck ended up in a jihadi photo from the front lines of the war in Syria produced by the militant group ISIS

The New York Daily News reported that Mark Oberholtzer of Texas City traded the company car in at a dealership in 2013 and hadn’t thought of it since.

On Monday, however, the Ansar al-Deen Front, a Syrian militant group, posted a photo featuring the black Ford F-250 pickup with an anti-aircraft gun mounted on the truck bed and the logo of Oberholtzer’s Mark-1 Plumbing Company and contact information emblazoned on the doors.

[R650R]

Interesting thought from JSF on the plumbers truck...


Two FAR MORE probable explanations for the Plumber's truck

I initially posted about this Texas plumber's truck which ended up being used by ISIS as an anti aircraft artillery platform in Syria on the day the story broke, but pulled the report because of a claimed pedigree by Glenn Beck which explained how that truck got to Syria. But on close examination, Beck's story is a bullshit white wash with no root in facts whatsoever.

Here is a far better explanation for how a nearly worthless worn out used truck was deemed worthy to ship overseas, and it has U.S. military intelligence written ALL OVER IT.
It is no small issue to ship a vehicle across the Atlantic, through the Mediterranean and drop it off at Syria. To justify such a trip, which would no doubt involve one or more shipping transfers, a high vehicle value has to exist to provide a reason for shipping it to begin with. A worn out plumber's truck simply would not cut it. There are many many higher value used vehicles available in Syria and the rest of the Arab world, which nullify any rational reason to ship something that is used for that great a distance. The only cars that can be by force of economics shipped that distance are classic cars, new cars, or very odd circumstance high value used cars. "Plumber's castaway" is not on that list.

However, there is ONE WAY that a HUGE number of very low value cars get shipped overseas economics be damned, and that is as privately owned vehicles that BELONG TO THE MILITARY. Once you are a U.S. government employee, especially Army Navy Air Force Marine Coast Guard, your car gets shipped absolutely FREE, sight unseen, even if it is worth less than scrap value.


CONSIDER THIS OPTION:
That truck never got shipped overseas. Not by the military, not by U-DO-IT-FREE truck transport, NO, it just sat in Texas. Got bought at an auto auction cheap, AND ALL THE BEHEADINGS, ALL THE ISIS PHOTO OPS WERE SHOT ON A MILITARY BASE IN TEXAS WITH ORDINARY USED AMERICAN VEHICLES. How about that? That make sense? Are there good enough "Arab back drops" available in Texas? I THINK SO! This truck most likely simply busted the fact that much of ISIS, if not all, is happening on American soil hollywood style and the American bombings in Syria are done against ONLY what America wants wiped out in Syria. Makes perfect sense when ISIS is an American military intelligence outfit running in Washington DC with major offices in Texas.

Interesting....

[Oakie]

CONSIDER THIS OPTION:
That truck never got shipped overseas. Not by the military, not by U-DO-IT-FREE truck transport, NO, it just sat in Texas. Got bought at an auto auction cheap, AND ALL THE BEHEADINGS, ALL THE ISIS PHOTO OPS WERE SHOT ON A MILITARY BASE IN TEXAS WITH ORDINARY USED AMERICAN VEHICLES. How about that? That make sense? Are there good enough "Arab back drops" available in Texas? I THINK SO! This truck most likely simply busted the fact that much of ISIS, if not all, is happening on American soil hollywood style and the American bombings in Syria are done against ONLY what America wants wiped out in Syria. Makes perfect sense when ISIS is an American military intelligence outfit running in Washington DC with major offices in Texas.

Interesting....

The German jounalist who has just returned from spending 6 days with ISIS in Mosul may disagree.

[scumdog]

CONSIDER THIS OPTION:
That truck never got shipped overseas. Not by the military, not by U-DO-IT-FREE truck transport, NO, it just sat in Texas. Got bought at an auto auction cheap, AND ALL THE BEHEADINGS, ALL THE ISIS PHOTO OPS WERE SHOT ON A MILITARY BASE IN TEXAS WITH ORDINARY USED AMERICAN VEHICLES. How about that? That make sense? Are there good enough "Arab back drops" available in Texas? I THINK SO! This truck most likely simply busted the fact that much of ISIS, if not all, is happening on American soil hollywood style and the American bombings in Syria are done against ONLY what America wants wiped out in Syria. Makes perfect sense when ISIS is an American military intelligence outfit running in Washington DC with major offices in Texas.

Interesting....

Interesting?...no, a crock of shit?...yes...

[oldrider]

The German jounalist who has just returned from spending 6 days with ISIS in Mosul may disagree.

Well Oakie -- don't hold back ... what did he say?

[R650R]

The German jounalist who has just returned from spending 6 days with ISIS in Mosul may disagree.

Was it this german journalist or a different one????

[R650R]

Interesting?...no, a crock of shit?...yes...

A slight variation....

Buck Private Bob bought a truck at an auto auction CHEAP. Buck Private Bob got assigned to Syria. Got a security clearance for black ops. HAD THE ARMYAIRFORCENAVYMARINESCOASTGUARD (whatever) ship his truck overseas FREE. Buck Private Bob (now a Spec4) for whatever reason used his truck in an ISIS photo op. And even if it was not shipped over there as a privately owned vehicle and was bought by a black op contractor or whatever for use in Syria, THE ONLY THING THAT CAN ECONOMICALLY EXPLAIN HAVING AN OLD PLUMBER'S TRUCK END UP IN SYRIA IS FREE SHIPPING BY THE U.S. MILITARY, which happens all the time.