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    The same scientists who first raised the topic of global warming being man made went back over their research and found they were wrong
    Svante Arrhenius - he died in 1927.!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    ALLEGEDLY - there's no allegedly about it
    No science is ever 100% certain.

    Often we think we know what's going on until someone comes along with a fresh perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Fuck! Your global perception is a hell of a lot better than mine. Or are you telling me that you actually believe anything the modern media shovels at us?
    No.....Im telling you that I no longer need the MSM or any other "agency " to tell me anything that my "gut" has'nt been telling me for years....

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    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post
    No.....Im telling you that I no longer need the MSM or any other "agency " to tell me anything that my "gut" has'nt been telling me for years....
    My gut just told me its fucking cold for December.

    Global Warming disproved, next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    No science is ever 100% certain.

    Often we think we know what's going on until someone comes along with a fresh perspective.
    True, but the empirical evidence has not been able to disprove the fact that CO2 is a greenhouse gas for over 100 yrs. If someone can PROVE otherwise, I'll gladly change my stance and feel like a prat - but - it ain't gonna happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    True, but the empirical evidence has not been able to disprove the fact that CO2 is a greenhouse gas for over 100 yrs. If someone can PROVE otherwise, I'll gladly change my stance and feel like a prat - but - it ain't gonna happen!
    I actually think you're right. CO2 is in all likelihood a greenhouse gas. As with anything I just like to keep an open mind to the possibility that someone may prove otherwise some day, no matter how unlikely.
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    The establishment is so worried there having to run articles in the Herald to coach the CO2 cult how to deal with debating the truth that man made climate change is a fraud.
    Note the article mentions no facts to back up debate just the usual misdirection and ridicule techniques....

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11377926

    If there really was such a thing as a greenhouse effect why the hell does the temp vary so much from one day to another even when there is little wind...??? If you purchased a commercial greenhouse with such variations you'd want a refund....
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    http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/66...ers-in-Siberia

    Global warming is a fact. More evidence coming to the fore in recent times is ever more critical of Man's contribution to it too. However, whatever the ratio of blame, the snowball is rolling and increasing in size and speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post

    Global warming is coming to recent times. Man is ever more critical . However, the blame ratio of the snowball is rolling and increasing in size and speed.

    ...ok Ed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/66...ers-in-Siberia

    Global warming is a fact. More evidence coming to the fore in recent times is ever more critical of Man's contribution to it too. However, whatever the ratio of blame, the snowball is rolling and increasing in size and speed.
    I'll believe it 100 years down the track when it's still happening. We were heading for an ice age in the '70s and that never happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/66...ers-in-Siberia

    Global warming is a fact. More evidence coming to the fore in recent times is ever more critical of Man's contribution to it too. However, whatever the ratio of blame, the snowball is rolling and increasing in size and speed.
    It will likely be ignored, because to do what needs to be done in order for human beings to prepare for either warming or cooling, will cost more money than humans have. Better just ignore it... or better yet, and in true young ones styleez, an alien spaceship full of cash is going to smash through my front room window.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2923

    It's more serious than many seem to think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post

    It's another conspiracy.
    ...ok Ed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...ok Ed...
    Bollox of course. I am simply posting what the scientists are finding. Some seem to prefer to remain ignorant, but that doesn't stop it happening, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    I am simply posting what the scientists are finding.
    You mean an interpretation of what the scientists are finding. Like anything it can be interpreted in several different ways. Especially if they're selective when it comes to what data to present.

    Personally, I don't believe either side. Is it warmer than when I was a kid? Globally, I can't say. Certainly we don't get the frosts in northern NZ that I remember so it may well be warmer now than it has been. The real question is "will it last?". I have my doubts. None can really say to any level of certainty. If it turns out to be unusual solar activity or some other periodical cause then we'll be back to cooling before long (in geological terms).

    The next question is "if it does last what can we do about it?". In terms of reversing the change the answer is easy - we can do diddly squat. Good luck getting the emerging Chinese nouveau riche to cut their emissions any time soon. We'd be far better off to start thinking of ways to cope with it.
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