MotoGP 2015

[The End]

They tell us the Motegi circuit has more corners requiring heavy braking than is normal. Seems like Lorenzo believes it?

Interesting video explaining the brakes for Motegi

https://www.facebook.com/devino.clas...02625683368848

[speights_bud]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/1...4-crash/186519

"Alex underwent a CT scan and has been diagnosed with lung contusion after preliminary analysis, further checks revealed several rib fractures. A spinal CT scan revealed fractures to the T7-T8-T9 vertebrae, a body fracture to L4 and transversal process fractures to T2,4 and 8."

Poor bugger

I had to google most of the described injuries as I have no clue apart from 'T#' designation of vertebrae.
Transverse process fractures. http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sp...ocess-fracture)
Body Fracture to L4. http://morphopedics.wikidot.com/frac...4-l5-vertebrae

[husaberg]

Interesting video explaining the brakes for Motegi

https://www.facebook.com/devino.clas...02625683368848

They need to brakes as the bikes are porkers now. 150KG
The 500's used to be 120KG till they increased the weights in the Harris/ROC era to 130 kg. Pretty sure they were even lighter in the early 80's. Checks... they were 115kg.
They used to have to ballast the works bikes even then at those weights. The 500 twins were 105kg.
Pretty sure the 1990s superbikes were even lighter than the current motogp bikes are now.

[Drew]

They need to brakes as the bikes are porkers now. 150KG
The 500's used to be 120KG till they increased the weights in the Harris/ROC era to 130 kg. Pretty sure they were even lighter in the early 80's. Checks... they were 115kg.
They used to have to ballast the works bikes even then at those weights. The 500 twins were 105kg.
Pretty sure the 1990s superbikes were even lighter than the current motogp bikes are now.

They used to ride the differently though. The tyres couldn't hold on with the back wheel off the ground right to the apex. I would bet a cooked breakfast that available grip is a far greater factor in how much brake force is used, than the difference in weight between old and new bikes.

GP racers used to be full sized men who barely knew what a treadmill was, with a couple of obvious exceptions. The 30kgs the bikes now have over the 2 strokes, is like only adding a total of 10 or 15 to bike and rider total.

[Grumph]

They need to brakes as the bikes are porkers now. 150KG
The 500's used to be 120KG till they increased the weights in the Harris/ROC era to 130 kg. Pretty sure they were even lighter in the early 80's. Checks... they were 115kg.
They used to have to ballast the works bikes even then at those weights. The 500 twins were 105kg.
Pretty sure the 1990s superbikes were even lighter than the current motogp bikes are now.

I'd argue that the power to weight ratio now is probably slightly better than the last of the 500's. Torque is up massively from the 2T's as well. Which is why electronics are now so important as the contact patch hasn't got a lot bigger.. 750/1000 WSB was from memory, 142kg dry.

Rob McElney was probably the biggest 500 pilot - over 6 foot - and to quote someone "drafted like a truck..." No one that size is going to get a ride now IMO.

[george formby]

[QUOTE=Shaun Harris;1130910542]

Well sometimes my memory ain't what it was - but I can't remember a better Q2 than that.

Rossi was worried about the Ducs getting between him and Lorenzo. He went about ensuring that they didn't in the best possible way. Twice this year in Q2, when worried, he has headed out on track right at the head of the field. Twice it has served him well. Why doesn't he do that every time? Who fucking knows?


I am picking because he is so old compared to others for a start, and needs to find that last % of hunger in is heart to commit like is necessary to perform at that level at the top. He obviously 100% wants that 10th title, and I say he is going to be 2015 Champion mate, unless MM fuks up and takes him out by trying to hard again, but doubt that will happen in Japan, as MM MUST at least finish this race in Japan for Honda.


Suzuki for a top 5

Rossi looked decidedly pre-occupied in his pit. Very attentive to the timing screen. Not his usual chirpy self. A man on a mission I think.

Did anybody notice the clear plastic helmet extensions that were shown briefly? Must be for aero like a speed skiers helmet.

[roogazza]

Go Rossi !!!!!!!

Hope the rain stays away. Cant wait.

[pritch]

Hope the rain stays away.

Ground conditions half an hour ago. (10.15AM ish here 6.15 there.)

[Shaun Harris]

Ground conditions half an hour ago. (10.15AM ish here 6.15 there.)

with massive humidity

[sil3nt]

Hope the race is in mixed conditions to spice things up a bit.

[Shaun Harris]

Hope the race is in mixed conditions to spice things up a bit.

I hate it when that shit happens, yea it is entertaining for us, but all kinds of decisions can interfere in the result, compared to a start and finish race, which is a real race to me, and not gambles good and bad decisions as such

[eelracing]

I hate it when that shit happens, yea it is entertaining for us, but all kinds of decisions can interfere in the result, compared to a start and finish race, which is a real race to me, and not gambles good and bad decisions as such

Still mindfucks Jorge tho

[eelracing]

They used to ride the differently though. The tyres couldn't hold on with the back wheel off the ground right to the apex.

The good riders never needed to, they scrubbed speed off with the front sliding to the apex...lightweight can be forgiving like that.

[husaberg]

I'd argue that the power to weight ratio now is probably slightly better than the last of the 500's. Torque is up massively from the 2T's as well. Which is why electronics are now so important as the contact patch hasn't got a lot bigger.. 750/1000 WSB was from memory, 142kg dry.

Rob McElney was probably the biggest 500 pilot - over 6 foot - and to quote someone "drafted like a truck..." No one that size is going to get a ride now IMO.

Likely as the 200HP 2 strokes were required by the rules to be 140kg by then (rather than 115kg) and the Moto GP bikes are more powerful and torguey simply as they are a lot bigger engines.
The electronics are a bit of a red hearing as the current electronics are a lot better smaller and lighter if the two strokes likely needed them more.
Terry Rymer who filled in for Suzuki when kevin was injured was 6.2 Schwantz look lanky but it appears was only 5.10.
Of the current crop Rossi is at least 5.11 might be even taller.

[husaberg]

They used to ride the differently though. The tyres couldn't hold on with the back wheel off the ground right to the apex. I would bet a cooked breakfast that available grip is a far greater factor in how much brake force is used, than the difference in weight between old and new bikes.

GP racers used to be full sized men who barely knew what a treadmill was, with a couple of obvious exceptions. The 30kgs the bikes now have over the 2 strokes, is like only adding a total of 10 or 15 to bike and rider total.

Doohan used to run 10km before breakfast. Rainey trained as hard or harder than most do now as did Kokinski.
They used to slide the bikes as it was faster to square of the corners to lengthen the straights plus it was safer not to push the front which is why the dirt track Americans and the Aussies dominated over the Europeans.
This was not such an issue after the big bang era as the electronics and the tires improved and allowed a 250 style.
The brakes rate of work is more based on the weight of what its stopping and the speed, rather than grip.