MotoGP 2015

[vifferman]

Dani stated afterwards that he knew the tyre wear would be an issue so he worked into it slowly and kept his time constant. That and his riding style probably helped a lot.

Not just that, but Dani's one of the lighter riders, so while it took a while for his tyres to get hot enough for decent grip, it also meant they didn't get hammered as much.

I love how Lorenzo had already been called a masterclass by about lap 4 or 5 by Harris or his lacky, oh how were they wrong?

You're forgetting summat: These dicks talk in cliches all the time, so they use "masterclass" and their other pet phrases ("36-year-old Italian", "Nine times World Champion", etc etc.) at least once in EVERY race. The poor vifferbabe is being remarkably patient with me yelling insults at them all the time for their lazy commentary. Yes, I've tried watching it with the commentary off, but I'm crap at keeping up with what's going on (short attention span? Early senility?), and it seems weird them racing without someone blathering on. I'm sure though that your average kiwibiker could do a better (and more entertaining) job. With more epithets. It needs more swearing, like, "MarcMarcMarc Marquez is being a dick again!", and "What a shitty overtaking manouevre that was!", and "Yup - he's fucked his bike properly this time; the hard-working mechanics will be pissed off!"

[vifferman]

Lorenzo stated the front tyre failing was due to his aggressive start.

Well, he used the same modus operandi he's used all season: try and get to the front, then go into automaton mode and keep the same lines, speed, change points etc. Unfortunately, he needed to modify this on account of the knobbly tyres not being up to hundreds of km of Lorenzoing.

[Shaun Harris]

Well, he used the same modus operandi he's used all season: try and get to the front, then go into automaton mode and keep the same lines, speed, change points etc. Unfortunately, he needed to modify this on account of the knobbly tyres not being up to hundreds of km of Lorenzoing.

His race craft is to leed, to be able to control his lines choice, but other fast riders like him, can actually race and make passes

[husaberg]

Also remember Dani likes to stand up a bike ASAP and get on the GASSSSSS (couldn't resist) down the straight. That surely would help his tyre too.

If Lorenzo wants to whine about bad luck he needs to shut the fuck up pronto, old Dani P takes the cake on what it means to have bad luck...

Luck wins championships, but not tearing the arse out of your tyre also wins championships. Ask Sykes.

Yes but it was about all the Hondas rather than just the midget.
I read something the other day about Ben spies braking effect on tyres http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/...esgoeswsbk.htm
Lorenzo rides 250 esk swooping style where it seems Rossi can change his style to suit conditions better.
Riders who are constantly pushing the front on big bikes seem to have less years of success. IMO

What happened to front tires on the Yamaha's is dead give away to Honda of the miss ballance they have, and where Yam are getting better cornering from I reckon.

Yes admittedly, but I suspect with the Honda I think a too abrupt power delivery is also an issue. I know they earlier went back to last years frame for Marquez at least.

The Honda would be constrained with the engine position due to configuration but likely less so than the Ducati.
I had a feeling on the 2015 they moved the engine back but no idea why they would, unless it was to suit the point and squirt Gardner esk style of Predro.
Burgess and Rossi were always firm believers in smooth power delivery being far more important than more HP delivered more aggressively.

[pritch]

These dicks talk in cliches all the time, so they use "masterclass" and their other pet phrases ("36-year-old Italian", "Nine times World Champion", etc etc.) at least once in EVERY race.

Yesterday for two hours there was nothing happening and nobody knew anything. The commentators must have worn every cliche in the book threadbare. To be fair though, to talk for two hours without a bloody clue as to what the situation is must be really hard. The cameras don't help much, there's only so much you can say about people sitting in the rain, flag marshals waving flags to amuse themselves, etc etc.

The riders and crew went through a process that started with a sort of bemused amusement and moved quickly to boredom. All the time though the commentators have to keep talking. You could feel the relief when the first Moto3 engine fired up - once it had been made clear that the TV shedule required action, so action there must be.

[Shaun Harris]

Yesterday for two hours there was nothing happening and nobody knew anything. The commentators must have worn every cliche in the book threadbare. To be fair though, to talk for two hours without a bloody clue as to what the situation is must be really hard. The cameras don't help much, there's only so much you can say about people sitting in the rain, flag marshals waving flags to amuse themselves, etc etc.

The riders and crew went through a process that started with a sort of bemused amusement and moved quickly to boredom. All the time though the commentators have to keep talking. You could feel the relief when the first Moto3 engine fired up - once it had been made clear that the TV shedule required action, so action there must be.

Re the commentators, personally, I think they do a bloody good job. No one will ever be perfect for ever one out there, and in the heat of the moment, it is easy to get words wrong when doing there job.

[onearmedbandit]

Re the commentators, personally, I think they do a bloody good job. No one will ever be perfect for ever one out there, and in the heat of the moment, it is easy to get words wrong when doing there job.

Agreed, and no doubt they have to follow some sort of 'script'.

[Oscar]

Re the commentators, personally, I think they do a bloody good job. No one will ever be perfect for ever one out there, and in the heat of the moment, it is easy to get words wrong when doing there job.

Normally I don't mind them, but I did get a bit pissed when they were giving the race to JL after only eight or nine laps.

[vifferman]

Yesterday for two hours there was nothing happening and nobody knew anything. The commentators must have worn every cliche in the book threadbare. To be fair though, to talk for two hours without a bloody clue as to what the situation is must be really hard.

I didn't watch all that - just the races. Yes, they do an OKish job (I admit I couldn't do better), but it just grates hearing some of the absolute bollocks they talk. Remember - they're not amateurs; presumably they're paid some good coin for this.
I'm just so SO over "so so" as an 'intensifier'. What about "very", or "extremely", "exceptionally", "toldless", "munteringly", or "fucking heaps"?.
Why can't he get 'Bastianini' right, instead of "Bastiaianini"?
Why doesn't he just STFU occasionally? Or retire? I'd rather listen to some sexy woman's voice than his grating, nasally tone. Be better for my blood pressure. FFS, it cost enough to have my foofoo pump overhauled - it'd be a shame if it exploded because he said "Bastiaiainini is going so so fast" one time too many.

[onearmedbandit]

I didn't watch all that - just the races. Yes, they do an OKish job (I admit I couldn't do better), but it just grates hearing some of the absolute bollocks they talk. Remember - they're not amateurs; presumably they're paid some good coin for this.
I'm just so SO over "so so" as an 'intensifier'. What about "very", or "extremely", "exceptionally", "toldless", "munteringly", or "fucking heaps"?.
Why can't he get 'Bastianini' right, instead of "Bastiaianini"?
Why doesn't he just STFU occasionally? Or retire? I'd rather listen to some sexy woman's voice than his grating, nasally tone. Be better for my blood pressure. FFS, it cost enough to have my foofoo pump overhauled - it'd be a shame if it exploded because he said "Bastiaiainini is going so so fast" one time too many.

Chill. It's easier to change how you react than change other people...

[Shaun Harris]

I didn't watch all that - just the races. Yes, they do an OKish job (I admit I couldn't do better), but it just grates hearing some of the absolute bollocks they talk. Remember - they're not amateurs; presumably they're paid some good coin for this.
I'm just so SO over "so so" as an 'intensifier'. What about "very", or "extremely", "exceptionally", "toldless", "munteringly", or "fucking heaps"?.
Why can't he get 'Bastianini' right, instead of "Bastiaianini"?
Why doesn't he just STFU occasionally? Or retire? I'd rather listen to some sexy woman's voice than his grating, nasally tone. Be better for my blood pressure. FFS, it cost enough to have my foofoo pump overhauled - it'd be a shame if it exploded because he said "Bastiaiainini is going so so fast" one time too many.

I dear dear dear, turn the volume down then to save your tits getting all twisted, that does not change the riders racing that you are watching

[vifferman]

Chill. It's easier to change how you react than change other people...

I yam mostly chilled while watching (have to make sure I don't piss off the vifferbabe, otherwise I won't get a subscription for 2016).
And I ignore most of the bollix, enjoying my first year with a season pass, and living in hope that Nick Harris is as old as he sounds and will be forced to retire soon.
However - it's not just me - just typing in his name reveals that many other imaginary MotoGP fans out there on the Interwebs are pissed off for the same reasons as me: the grating voice, the use of the same phrases over and over and OVER again; the limited vocabulary; the fact he sounds like he's commentating for a horse race on the radio.

[george formby]

Chill. It's easier to change how you react than change other people...

That be the truth.

Must admit, of late, I've switched off from the commentary. To much racing going on and my GF makes better observations than the commentators. Her latest thing is to guess the length of the circuit from FP lap times..... I am blessed.
I do like Dillon/Dylan/Dillan in pit lane. Why's the Pink Panther music just popped into my head?

[pritch]

The commentators had my sympathy yesterday but I still have the impression that they are lazy, they could do better with relatively little effort. If I recall correctly Harris' wingman has extensive print experience in the world of motorcycle racing but this is his first year with a microphone.

Just had a look at the extended forecast for PI:
Thurs - sunshine
Friday - possibility of showers
Sat & Sun - partly cloudy.

Then again the weather there is famously fickle so fingers crossed.

[puddytat]

If you look at those photos of the front tyres of Pedro & Rossi, there is not that much difference in wear.....contrast them with Lorenzos' who by the way, did have winglets & the other 2 didn't....smells like a conspiracy