MotoGP 2015

[husaberg]

Low weight = free Horse power! and we on the net can rabbit on our idea;s all we like, they are a professional race team man, and know a shit load more than any fuker on the net. A tire life and grip is NOT just about pressure ( PSI) it is extremely important to have the carcass operating temp correct also.

All to true which is why I originally said i find it hard to believe HRC can't tweak around it for him.
re the pressure and temps the pressure is the easiest way they have to ensure the carcass temps are correctly maintained.
Of course the old days he could have had 20 or 30 tyres to choose from in multiple construction and profile and design as well as compounds and there were other suppliers.
I like the few tyre choices rule, as it cuts out the "he had better tyres" like the old days or because he was a works rider he had special tyres stuff.
Funny enough the more they restrict the rules (to save money) like the tyres the more money the teams spend tweaking stuff like this. Its just a roundabout.

Think back to the HQ racing and any controlled class racing and so forth.

Simply put Pedro has to say something was wrong, as his teammate went far far better than he did. Consistently beating your teammate is as you know nearly as important as wining come contact time.

But these are just internet musings as you say. All I know is this is going to be interesting and its been a great season thus far easily the most interesting in years. If only they could make two stokes sounds.

[Autech]

All to true which is why I originally said i find it hard to believe HRC can't tweak around it for him.
re the pressure and temps the pressure is the easiest way they have to ensure the carcass temps are correctly maintained.
Of course the old days he could have had 20 or 30 tyres to choose from in multiple construction and profile and design as well as compounds and there were other suppliers.
I like the few tyre choices rule, as it cuts out the "he had better tyres" like the old days or because he was a works rider he had special tyres stuff.
Funny enough the more they restrict the rules (to save money) like the tyres the more money the teams spend tweaking stuff like this. Its just a roundabout.

Think back to the HQ racing and any controlled class racing and so forth.

Simply put Pedro has to say something was wrong, as his teammate went far far better than he did. Consistently beating your teammate is as you know nearly as important as wining come contact time.

But these are just internet musings as you say. All I know is this is going to be interesting and its been a great season thus far easily the most interesting in years. If only they could make two stokes sounds.

He certainly stuck it to him (MM) in the opening laps. I think (here we ago again) IF Crutchlow hadn't decided duke it out as much as him in the opening bits he may have been able to live with the top guys by using the draft etc to help with that weak point. I'm not sure if he was bridging the gap much at the end but he did gap the other riders.

Imagine 5 riders going at it rather than 4... I'm hard thinking about it...

Malaysia is going to be good.

[Shaun Harris]

All to true which is why I originally said i find it hard to believe HRC can't tweak around it for him.
re the pressure and temps the pressure is the easiest way they have to ensure the carcass temps are correctly maintained.
Of course the old days he could have had 20 or 30 tyres to choose from in multiple construction and profile and design as well as compounds and there were other suppliers.
I like the few tyre choices rule, as it cuts out the "he had better tyres" like the old days or because he was a works rider he had special tyres stuff.
Funny enough the more they restrict the rules (to save money) like the tyres the more money the teams spend tweaking stuff like this. Its just a roundabout.

Think back to the HQ racing and any controlled class racing and so forth.

Simply put Pedro has to say something was wrong, as his teammate went far far better than he did. Consistently beating your teammate is as you know nearly as important as wining come contact time.

But these are just internet musings as you say. All I know is this is going to be interesting and its been a great season thus far easily the most interesting in years. If only they could make two stokes sounds.

Slight debate on this still mate. yes pressure helps carcass temp, but so does pre load, spring rate, track temp, rebound and comp, ride heights engine torque etc, so not quite as clear as mud the way you have worded it. 100% agreed re the semi control tire rules, remember even a wee while ago with VR and michi tires ha ha ha. Pedi and MM are also running diff chassis and swing arm combo,s, along with geometry settings etc, so 1 rider and bike simply cannot be compared to the other, as all riders like diff things, there is no rule that says this way is the best and only way, it all comes down to rider flexa-billity, and crew chiefs de -brief interpretation of rider comments, and the tech dude on the computer looking at the read outs. So it is exactly the same as saying " How long is a piece of string" MM is more of a loose rider than pedi, so he can make the bike go quicker than pedi nearly every day of the week in any situations, pedi needs all near on perfect to perform at his best, and that is his weak link. Take a look at how many people here in NZ use tire temp gauges, bugger all do! And most of the one's I see are the wrong ones to use also, common to see here are the ones that you just point and aim at the tire, they are crap and supply false info, the best and only ones to use, are the ones that you physically poke into the rubber to get real temp readings, with no outside interferance giving false readings.

[husaberg]

Slight debate on this still mate. yes pressure helps carcass temp, but so does pre load, spring rate, track temp, rebound and comp, ride heights engine torque etc, so not quite as clear as mud the way you have worded it. 100% agreed re the semi control tire rules, remember even a wee while ago with VR and michi tires ha ha ha. Pedi and MM are also running diff chassis and swing arm combo,s, along with geometry settings etc, so 1 rider and bike simply cannot be compared to the other, as all riders like diff things, there is no rule that says this way is the best and only way, it all comes down to rider flexa-billity, and crew chiefs de -brief interpretation of rider comments, and the tech dude on the computer looking at the read outs. So it is exactly the same as saying " How long is a piece of string" MM is more of a loose rider than pedi, so he can make the bike go quicker than pedi nearly every day of the week in any situations, pedi needs all near on perfect to perform at his best, and that is his weak link. Take a look at how many people here in NZ use tire temp gauges, bugger all do! And most of the one's I see are the wrong ones to use also, common to see here are the ones that you just point and aim at the tire, they are crap and supply false info, the best and only ones to use, are the ones that you physically poke into the rubber to get real temp readings, with no outside interferance giving false readings.

No disagreement on any of that.
Funny enough I more I look at Pedro the more he reminds me of Luca Caladora.
Anyone who has been around a while should be able to see how close his career is now emulating his.
Some riders are great at setting a bike up, other aren't, some become better, some never get it and ride around it with willpower.
But some as you said need everything perfect.

Its also fairy relevant how Rossi practices with dirt which seems to be throw back to Kenny's ranch.
I may not be a stoner fan but I do know what his background was also.
I think the flexibility and style adaptability is going to be more important in years to come.
I personally don't see a more adaptable rider than Rossi but age is catching up.

Actually where is Burgess now is still retired?
Maybe Pedro needs him or someone in the Kanemoto mould. Assuming Honda would allow it

[husaberg]

He certainly stuck it to him (MM) in the opening laps. I think (here we ago again) IF Crutchlow hadn't decided duke it out as much as him in the opening bits he may have been able to live with the top guys by using the draft etc to help with that weak point. I'm not sure if he was bridging the gap much at the end but he did gap the other riders.

Imagine 5 riders going at it rather than 4... I'm hard thinking about it...

Malaysia is going to be good.

Best race I can remember was a 125 race in the around the mid nineties can't remember where, there was like 5 or maybe 6 one ended up totally missing the last corner a chicane and straight lined it can't even remember where it was.
Will Malaysia been a late afternoon start?
That other one I posted a while back with Rossi first win on the 500 was also epic, As was one I posted ages ago with Doohan and Swanzte and Rainey all banging and barging.

[carbonhed]

Actually where is Burgess now is still retired?

I think I saw Burgess and Doohan mooching around pitlane together over the weekend.

[Shaun Harris]

No disagreement on any of that.
Funny enough I more I look at Pedro the more he reminds me of Luca Caladora.
Anyone who has been around a while should be able to see how close his career is now emulating his.
Some riders are great at setting a bike up, other aren't, some become better, some never get it and ride around it with willpower.
But some as you said need everything perfect.

Its also fairy relevant how Rossi practices with dirt which seems to be throw back to Kenny's ranch.
I may not be a stoner fan but I do know what his background was also.
I think the flexibility and style adaptability is going to be more important in years to come.
I personally don't see a more adaptable rider than Rossi but age is catching up.

Actually where is Burgess now is still retired?
Maybe Pedro needs him or someone in the Kanemoto mould. Assuming Honda would allow it

Dirt riding, flat tracking is where it is at mate, ya need to live on a bike always sliding front and rear to be a special fast rider, dirt riding is some thing I have never done. Yep CS was bloody good in the dirt for sure. Jb is still retired and always will be. I see Pedro lacking in the last % of mental will power at the end of the day, He won last weekend then 5th yesterday, ( I know he had maching issue;s, but so did every one ) not good enough imo sorry at that level. There are 3 current freaks out there, and 3 more coming in the KIWI LOL J M and Maverick ( 20) FFS and And crazy man Iannone, but later is already 30, so prob not around at the top for a long time, compared to Maverick JM and MM. Having said all that, next year is gunna change the whole game with the Michi's coming on board, it will come down to who is prepared and can adapt asap, to be the fastest out there, and we all know MM and VR will be there 100%, the rest is again just guess work. I think Sam lowes will haul ass when he gets there also.

[Shaun Harris]

I think I saw Burgess and Doohan mooching around pitlane together over the weekend.

you sure did, JB lives near Adelaide

[Brett]

Slight debate on this still mate. yes pressure helps carcass temp, but so does pre load, spring rate, track temp, rebound and comp, ride heights engine torque etc, so not quite as clear as mud the way you have worded it. 100% agreed re the semi control tire rules, remember even a wee while ago with VR and michi tires ha ha ha. Pedi and MM are also running diff chassis and swing arm combo,s, along with geometry settings etc, so 1 rider and bike simply cannot be compared to the other, as all riders like diff things, there is no rule that says this way is the best and only way, it all comes down to rider flexa-billity, and crew chiefs de -brief interpretation of rider comments, and the tech dude on the computer looking at the read outs. So it is exactly the same as saying " How long is a piece of string" MM is more of a loose rider than pedi, so he can make the bike go quicker than pedi nearly every day of the week in any situations, pedi needs all near on perfect to perform at his best, and that is his weak link. Take a look at how many people here in NZ use tire temp gauges, bugger all do! And most of the one's I see are the wrong ones to use also, common to see here are the ones that you just point and aim at the tire, they are crap and supply false info, the best and only ones to use, are the ones that you physically poke into the rubber to get real temp readings, with no outside interferance giving false readings.

You almost sound like you know what you're talking about Shaun! haha

Back a few years, I had you set up my K4 GSXR 600...still one of the best handling bikes that I have owned to date!

[Shaun Harris]

You almost sound like you know what you're talking about Shaun! haha

Back a few years, I had you set up my K4 GSXR 600...still one of the best handling bikes that I have owned to date!

LOl, thanks Brett. My forte has always been setting up chassis's and understanding the riders feed back, to make the adjustments, as well as understanding what internal part of the suspension does what to what area/zone. I learned this really from racing in japan, for a team that spoke no english, and I at the time no Japanese, so it all came down to body language communication. I love watching the WSB and motogp stuff, to play games with myself, as to what the riders are saying to there crew chiefs with there body language.

[The End]

Why did some teams (eg: Iannone on Ducati) get a softer compound in qualifying?

Fantastic race to watch, I've only recently got back in to following MotoGP and PI definitely stood out as one of the best.

[onearmedbandit]

Why did some teams (eg: Iannone on Ducati) get a softer compound in qualifying?

Fantastic race to watch, I've only recently got back in to following MotoGP and PI definitely stood out as one of the best.

https://motomatters.com/analysis/201...gines_fue.html

They can use it in the race too but most choose not to due to lack of longevity.

[Shaun Harris]

Why did some teams (eg: Iannone on Ducati) get a softer compound in qualifying?

Fantastic race to watch, I've only recently got back in to following MotoGP and PI definitely stood out as one of the best.

Full Factory team Versus learning to be a full factory team ha ha. NEW/ish teams get a couple of special perks to get them selves up to a full on capable of winning races team which Ducati already is, with VR or MM of JL on Board now, not a few years ago with rossi and JB, things at Ducati have changed big time since those days. These teams also get to run an extra 2 litres of fuel, to try and gain a bit of extra speed from fuel mapping

[BMWST?]

Why did some teams (eg: Iannone on Ducati) get a softer compound in qualifying?

Fantastic race to watch, I've only recently got back in to following MotoGP and PI definitely stood out as one of the best.

Ducati have been granted the status of an OPEN bike more fuel,softer tyres,spec ecu,so that they could develop the bike more.I think they were about to pull the plug after rossi went back to Yamaha.There are caveats ,they have lost half of their original fule allowance,and i think a certain number of podiums or a wins puts them back as a "factory" bike

[The End]

Full Factory team Versus learning to be a full factory team ha ha. NEW/ish teams get a couple of special perks to get them selves up to a full on capable of winning races team which Ducati already is, with VR or MM of JL on Board now, not a few years ago with rossi and JB, things at Ducati have changed big time since those days. These teams also get to run an extra 2 litres of fuel, to try and gain a bit of extra speed from fuel mapping

https://motomatters.com/analysis/201...gines_fue.html

They can use it in the race too but most choose not to due to lack of longevity.

Cheers, thanks for that.

One of the better photos from the weekend...