MotoGP 2015

**pritch** · 29th October 2015, 21:19

Originally Posted by sil3nt

Fairly sure there are rules for impeding riders in Qualifying.

Several days ago one of the pundits, maybe Mat Oxley, was saying that it can actually be an advantage not having to worry about qualifying. Free of the restraints of having to switch focus during each practice session to chase a fast lap, Rossi can concentrate entirely on setup.

All of which sounds somewhat like making a virtue of necessity but...

**pritch** · 29th October 2015, 21:28

Originally Posted by Digitdion

Rossi should have a problem with the bike , pop back into the pits . Get back out there lol and behold right with Lorenzo of course. Even though he is a lap behind he could take Lorenzo out. Just a racing incident. It's in the rules that even though he is a lap behind he can still race Lorenzo.Do a slightly better job than last week and bingo he is champ again.

He should be black flagged pronto in that scenario. In the past Italian riders have blocked another rider so that one of theirs could win the title. That though was in neutral territory, doing it in Jerez would be near suicidal. In a similar points situation Schmacher took his main opposition out and being ahead on points at the time he was awarded the title.

There are lots of possibilities, including a dud tyre. There have been a few this year.

**Shaun Harris** · 30th October 2015, 10:15

I can see the next race being RED flagged due to spectators invading or damaging track conditions some how, before Rossi even has a chance to get through the pack, causing a result being given on laps prior, giving JL a FALSE championship win. Will JL winge then? Bah humbug he will

**Oscar** · 30th October 2015, 10:57

Shit this is like waiting for the Rugby World Cup final.
Please let the talking be over and the racing to start...

**onearmedbandit** · 30th October 2015, 11:38

Originally Posted by Oscar

Shit this is like waiting for the Rugby World Cup final.
Please let the talking be over and the racing to start...

True. But if you think this is bad try being a member of any MotoGP related page on facebook...

**pritch** · 30th October 2015, 13:14

Originally Posted by Shaun Harris

I can see the next race being RED flagged due to spectators invading or damaging track conditions some how, before Rossi even has a chance to get through the pack, causing a result being given on laps prior, giving JL a FALSE championship win. Will JL winge then? Bah humbug he will

They'd have to be careful, if the race was called off too early the Championship would go to Rossi wouldn't it? At some point they can award half points but I think they have to have completed X many laps for that.

**pritch** · 31st October 2015, 07:48

Rossi is appealing his grid penalty to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. That's interesting because normally when an appeal is in progress any penalties imposed previously are placed on hold until the appeal is heard. The process would normally be expected to take six months or thereabout. So far, however, the FIM have not announced that Rossi's grid penalty has been waived meantime.

Several sets of lawyers will be rubbing their hands with glee because, regardless of the outcome, they will be the winners.

Previously the President of the FIM had sent an open letter to all involved in MotoGP. There were complaints that the letter didn't actually say anything. When I read it the thought occurred that it may have been written in Italian and translated (badly) in to English. Basically it was an appeal to everyone: riders, teams, sponsors etc, to behave according to values consistant with good sportsmanship. The Prez may find the latest development disappointing?

**Reckless** · 31st October 2015, 08:01

Originally Posted by pritch

Rossi is appealing his grid penalty to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (or whatever its proper title may be). That's interesting because normally when an appeal is in progress any penalties imposed previously are placed on hold until the appeal is heard. The process would normally take six months or thereabout. So far, however, the FIM have not announced that Rossi's grid penalty has been waived meantime.

Several sets of lawyers will be rubbing their hands with glee because, regardless of the outcome, they will be the winners.

Previously the President of the FIM had sent an open letter to all involved in MotoGP. There were complaints that the letter didn't actually say anything. When I read it the thought occurred that it may have been written in Italian and translated (badly) in to English. Basically it was an appeal to everyone: riders, teams, sponsors etc, to behave according to values consistant with sportsmanship.

Full breakdown here
https://motomatters.com/news/2015/10...penalty_t.html

Way I see it
His fisrt step is to get a case heard, second is win or loose the championship then decide to fight it or not?
At least well get to see who might have won fair and square. For that reason I think race control will let CAS hear the case and delay the 3 points?

**ecko_nzed** · 31st October 2015, 08:26

Oh goodie, I love it when lawyers get involved in sport.

**roogazza** · 31st October 2015, 08:41

Go Rossi ! Lets settle this on a race track.

**macka77** · 31st October 2015, 08:58

I hope for the sake of the sport that the issue can be resolved quickly and finally, with respect to rossi his view means that should he win his case, it will be setting a precedent on legally running riders out wide with no fault
of liability for any crashes

**BMWST?** · 31st October 2015, 09:41

Originally Posted by Reckless

Full breakdown here
https://motomatters.com/news/2015/10...penalty_t.html

Way I see it
His fisrt step is to get a case heard, second is win or loose the championship then decide to fight it or not?
At least well get to see who might have won fair and square. For that reason I think race control will let CAS hear the case and delay the 3 points?

they will have to have two races then,one with VR starting from where he qualifies ,and one fro the back.Then depending on the outcome of the appeal we will know what would have happened anyway

**Reckless** · 31st October 2015, 10:30

Originally Posted by BMWST?

they will have to have two races then,one with VR starting from where he qualifies ,and one fro the back.Then depending on the outcome of the appeal we will know what would have happened anyway

The way I read it if he gets the case heard and the 3 point penalty put on hold he will start from where he qualifies.
I'm betting they have thought this out very well.

1/- He looses by enough for Lonzenge to win the championship = he lets it go and doesnt fight it.

2/- He wins the championship = who the fuck in their right mind is going to take a 10th title from Valantino Rossi

Its a win for everbody, MM never had a chance anyway, Lonzenge made a dick of himself by not keeping his trap shut, we get the real race and championship result! Yamaha happy, Race control off the hook, Marketing Dept happy, best result for the sport out of a terrible situation.

Thats why Race control will let it be heard by cas they will suspend the decision and the race will proceed as normal.

PS AND a New set of rules for next year so this shit cant happen again.