MotoGP 2015

**Autech** · 23rd May 2015, 20:52

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

You must be watching different races than me. 2013 Lorenzo was way more aggressive than MM, and MM had to cope with an incredible amount of pressure at the last round. Front end issues won't help at Mugello though...so hopefully they can get that thing sorted.

He responded in kind I think, we all remember Lorenzo corner in Jerez...

Originally Posted by carbonhed

True that. He's a God no question. Is he a big enough God to overcome a cranky bike and beat the other God's.

I love the way he can arrow that bike down to the apex and it's just crashing all the way down... but not.

His style is feking amazing, he certainly rides that bike fantastically, the way he chucks it in yet doesn't chuck it down the road...

**Crasherfromwayback** · 23rd May 2015, 23:42

Originally Posted by merv

Okay that makes it easier, now just the job to sort huh!

Better start actually looking eh!

Originally Posted by Autech

He responded in kind I think, we all remember Lorenzo corner in Jerez...
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Lorenzo left the door open, MM invited himself in. Was nothing wrong with that act.

**Autech** · 24th May 2015, 01:14

Haha if you call bouncing off another bike just to make the corner a door open, sure :P. Btw I watched that race again last week for a laugh. 2013 was epic!

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**Reckless** · 24th May 2015, 11:42

Originally Posted by Autech

Haha if you call bouncing off another bike just to make the corner a door open, sure :P. Btw I watched that race again last week for a laugh. 2013 was epic!

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I think you'll find the field is getting less and less tolerant of the way MM barges through.
Starting with Rossi's lead and then Lorenzo last year and also Iannone last race they all seem prepared to go down instead of letting his tactics dominate them these days.
Its just his insane skill of judging that fine line thats saving him atm, but sooner or later he will bring someone down imho especially if he's over riding a bad handling bike. Things are getting a little bit of a Simoncelli look about them as far as MM is concerned I hope he pulls it back a notch.

**Drew** · 24th May 2015, 12:11

Originally Posted by Reckless

I think you'll find the field is getting less and less tolerant of the way MM barges through.
Starting with Rossi's lead and then Lorenzo last year and also Iannone last race they all seem prepared to go down instead of letting his tactics dominate them these days.
Its just his insane skill of judging that fine line thats saving him atm, but sooner or later he will bring someone down imho especially if he's over riding a bad handling bike. Things are getting a little bit of a Simoncelli look about them as far as MM is concerned I hope he pulls it back a notch.

He rides like a bully. There is nothing wrong with that, and everyone else is starting to push back. You will see a change in his riding style, but only because it will become less and less effective.

Rossi did it, Stoner did it (when the field could kep up and he had to), Jorge did it, along with many others. When they are establishing dominance, I believe it to be subconscious for them. Lots of riders over the years have had the attitude but not the talent. Simoncelli, Fabrizio, and many more.

Noted exception would be Dani Pedrosa. Has the talent, but rides like a gentleman.

**Reckless** · 24th May 2015, 12:30

Originally Posted by Drew

He rides like a bully. There is nothing wrong with that, and everyone else is starting to push back. You will see a change in his riding style, but only because it will become less and less effective.

Rossi did it, Stoner did it (when the field could kep up and he had to), Jorge did it, along with many others. When they are establishing dominance, I believe it to be subconscious for them. Lots of riders over the years have had the attitude but not the talent. Simoncelli, Fabrizio, and many more.

Noted exception would be Dani Pedrosa. Has the talent, but rides like a gentleman.

Indeed Drew, agree

The reason why DP hasnt been able to crack a tittle I reckon.

BTW how the fuck are you being so rational on a Sunday after your BD drinks??

**Drew** · 24th May 2015, 12:50

Originally Posted by Reckless

Indeed Drew, agree

The reason why DP hasnt been able to crack a tittle I reckon.

BTW how the fuck are you being so rational on a Sunday after your BD drinks??

Got a bit boozed on Friday, recovered yesterday.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 24th May 2015, 13:10

Originally Posted by Drew

, Stoner did it .

Only person I ever recall Stoner roughing up was DePuniet.

**pritch** · 24th May 2015, 15:17

Most impressive record with regard to bullying that comes to mind was Biaggi, he liked to give all newcomers the message. He did it to Hayden when #69 arrived on the scene, post race Hayden reportedly had Biaggi by the thoat against a truck with fist cocked as he gave Biaggi the "Come to Jesus" talk.

Biaggi did it to Rossi too, but apparently Rossi's response went to the next level. We got to hear it but alas we didn't get to see it.

**Autech** · 24th May 2015, 18:27

Originally Posted by Reckless

I think you'll find the field is getting less and less tolerant of the way MM barges through.
Starting with Rossi's lead and then Lorenzo last year and also Iannone last race they all seem prepared to go down instead of letting his tactics dominate them these days.
Its just his insane skill of judging that fine line thats saving him atm, but sooner or later he will bring someone down imho especially if he's over riding a bad handling bike. Things are getting a little bit of a Simoncelli look about them as far as MM is concerned I hope he pulls it back a notch.

Too right, first race was a good example, Marquez cocked up and ran wide then bashed into one of the Aprillia's causing it to fault on the way back up. Really rude when he has 1000 times the bike and could have gotten through cleanly had he wanted to.

Originally Posted by pritch

Most impressive record with regard to bullying that comes to mind was Biaggi, he liked to give all newcomers the message. He did it to Hayden when #69 arrived on the scene, post race Hayden reportedly had Biaggi by the thoat against a truck with fist cocked as he gave Biaggi the "Come to Jesus" talk.

Biaggi did it to Rossi too, but apparently Rossi's response went to the next level. We got to hear it but alas we didn't get to see it.

We all saw Rossi's response to Marquez this year. Don't fuck with the Doctor!

**george formby** · 24th May 2015, 19:42

Originally Posted by pritch

Biaggi did it to Rossi too, but apparently Rossi's response went to the next level. We got to hear it but alas we didn't get to see it.

I seem to remember Rossi knocking Biaggi off before he had even managed to catch up with him. He must have put the fear of God into him.

**BMWST?** · 24th May 2015, 20:27

i honestly dont think MM will change...he just doesnt see it like we do,he sees a gap and he goes for it.Its not bullying.I beleive the ability and willingness to make a pass at motogp is the difference between those who do and those who could...Rossi Jlo and of MM aint afraid of putting in a hard pass,DP and AD less so.....thats the difference.The difference with MM is any gap is his gap