70% charge in 2 minutes - a game changer?

[AllanB]

I can foresee more summers where "conserve electricity, the hydro lakes are low again!" is being broadcast nationwide.

Bloody good point really. NZ's power supply is 'acceptable' at best, push it further and .........

It could be a master plan to go nuclear.

[huff3r]

Bloody good point really. NZ's power supply is 'acceptable' at best, push it further and .........

It could be a master plan to go nuclear.

Contact just opened a BIG new geothermal plant. Consistent, reliable power. I vaguely recall some statistic along the lines of could power all of Wellington or something...

[bogan]

Bloody good point really. NZ's power supply is 'acceptable' at best, push it further and .........

It could be a master plan to go nuclear.

I think the bigger issue is infrastructure, come 5:30 pm and everyone is trying to charge their cars at 10kW each... going to be some toasty wiring. There are potential benefits too though, especially in countries relying heavily on solar for short term energy storage to load balance supply/demand; but again that needs infrastructure adaption.

No I dont think reducing the time to charge will be a game changer but increasing the duty cycle between charges of 800km or more will be as it with then be possible to travel a long distance between charges.

That is not what duty cycle is. Range is only a problem if there is no charging station in between, 5mins every 200km is nothing.

[ducatilover]

Bloody good point really. NZ's power supply is 'acceptable' at best, push it further and .........

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Knowing a joker in the industry very well (he is a supplier and very clever fulla with 'leccy stuff and powah station type crap, I do not understand his mumblings), we cannot faccilitate a large increase in charging 'leccy vehicles.
But this is the internet and 'leccy car owners be crayyyyzeee and shit, so people with real life experience, who design the systems used around the world don't know shit. And your stroy was the best one I have read in a while.

So bring on the lapdancing electric charging lunch breaks

[James Deuce]

It's the same old, "Working model in 5 years, in production in 10 years", vague waffle that lots of development scientists are forced to trot out to maintain funding. It won't be a thing in our lifetime.

[James Deuce]

Contact just opened a BIG new geothermal plant. Consistent, reliable power. I vaguely recall some statistic along the lines of could power all of Wellington or something...

That's not big. Wellington is a small to medium sized town in real countries.

[Naki Rat]

I can foresee more summers where "conserve electricity, the hydro lakes are low again!" is being broadcast nationwide.

Keep in mind that when Tiwai Point throws in the towel due to the dire state of international aluminium prices, Manapouri's generation will see us producing more than NZ's electricity demands by a wide margin. Add to that the growing uptake of PV installations (despite our government's total lack of incentives to do so) and we won't be seeing electricity shortages in the medium term at least.

Bloody good point really. NZ's power supply is 'acceptable' at best, push it further and .........

It could be a master plan to go nuclear.

The problem is not a lack of generation so much as the sad state of the distribution network (exploding cables in Auckland!!). It is suggested that around 15% of NZ's generated power is lost during distribution, which is approximately equal to Dunedin's power consumption!

'Distributed Generation' such as (grid tied) PV and other micro-generation takes loading off of the national grid. For example our 6kW of PV's generation is consumed by us or neighbours within a few hundred metres of us, and much of our EV's charging is from our own generation.

Nuclear isn't a goer for NZ primarily because the minimum sized power station would produce many times our electricity demands, and we can't export the excess due to a lack of land borders.

[James Deuce]

Keep in mind that when Tiwai Point throws in the towel due to the dire state of international aluminium prices, Manapouri's generation will see us producing more than NZ's electricity demands by a wide margin. Add to that the growing uptake of PV installations (despite our government's total lack of incentives to do so) and we won't be seeing electricity shortages in the medium term at least.


The problem is not a lack of generation so much as the sad state of the distribution network (exploding cables in Auckland!!). It is suggested that around 15% of NZ's generated power is lost during distribution, which is approximately equal to Dunedin's power consumption!

'Distributed Generation' such as (grid tied) PV and other micro-generation takes loading off of the national grid. For example our 6kW of PV's generation is consumed by us or neighbours within a few hundred metres of us, and much of our EV's charging is from our own generation.

Nuclear isn't a goer for NZ primarily because the minimum sized power station would produce many times our electricity demands, and we can't export the excess due to a lack of land borders.

I reckon you've nailed it, though I thought the losses across Cook Strait were MUCH higher than 15%. Where's Jantar when you need him?

[Swoop]

Keep in mind that when Tiwai Point throws in the towel due to the dire state of international aluminium prices, Manapouri's generation will see us producing more than NZ's electricity demands by a wide margin. Add to that the growing uptake of PV installations (despite our government's total lack of incentives to do so) and we won't be seeing electricity shortages in the medium term at least.

Very true with Tiwai.

In other countries, over-supply = no shortages = lower prices.
Shall we all hold our breath?

Where's Jantar when you need him?

Yes, where is our resident expert?
Did he say that he was off delivering a paper at a conference?

[Big Dave]

I can foresee more summers where "conserve electricity, the hydro lakes are low again!" is being broadcast nationwide.

Did you forget you live in NZ?

[avgas]

Nuclear isn't a goer for NZ primarily because the minimum sized power station would produce many times our electricity demands, and we can't export the excess due to a lack of land borders.

Pebble bed starts at 1MW......but even that is old school.....

But the thing I don't get is people in NZ are too stoopid/scared to look at Thorium Reactors. Yet NZ is in the best position to be lead the world in the stuff. Best of all - its safe. Unlike every other power plant in NZ.
Or it could be part of the whole Mr Key getting into bed with USA and the massive amounts of US patents in coal/gas/plutonium.... generators that companies like GE etc have.

[James Deuce]

GE have a 350kW nuclear reactor available and the Ruskies have been selling 200kW ones from retired subs for ages. The Ruskie ones are disposable though. You stick them in the ground in a concrete bunker, connect the coolant hoses and then fill the bunker with concrete when the fuel runs out. Oh and disconnect the coolant hoses.

[MisterD]

I think my iphone has this technology already. The battery suddenly goes into the red zone and it turns off, then I take it home plug it in to charge and it make that cheerful "bing" noise and is instantly at 54%.

[buggerit]

what voltage are these batteries?

[YellowDog]

So you know how when you pay $2.04 for a litre of fuel in Manukau and then you head out into the sticks and the very same litre of fuel costs $2.21; what are the chances of the new style fuel stations fixing their prices around scarcity and lack of choice?

If the average vehicle provides say $7.50 of profit to the garage franchise owner, where will they be getting their $7.50 from to justify their existence?

Coffee anyone ?