Prepare to be grumpy - Auckland toll plan

[Maha]

Tolls and Polls just don't do it for me.

Sent from/the beach using wireless internet.

[Akzle]

i think aucklanders should be charged 50$ a day, whether they drive or not. if they don't pay, or are late paying, they get shot.

this money, of course, funds my hobby in rocketry, and subsidises beer, pot and hookers for the remainder of the country (the productive part).

vote akzle.

[Gremlin]

Our clients have been able to telecommute for years, hell, been doing it since dial up (although that wasn't very efficient). We even have directors and suchlike where the company provides the connection, all connected via our WAN, so it's low latency and performs well (subject to other factors obviously). They connect to their work PCs via software, so have all the tools/software/setup they'd have as if they were sitting at their desks. No data/files flows out of the network, so it's nice and safe too. We can remote into their home computers to look at issues, and they'll often work early, then go to the gym etc, then come into work later in the morning, missing the bulk of the traffic.

My boss still likes to see me in my seat though...

As others have said, de-centralise business. Highbrook business park is just down the road, East Tamaki has a ton of businesses. Yet we still have people working in East Tamaki and commuting from the North Shore... seems crazy to me. However, that said, I can travel anywhere from Karaka to Silverdale in a day but at least I do it on a bike...

[R650R]

Interesting point on talkback radio, council is talking about Tolling a motorway it doesn't own!!!

[Gremlin]

Interesting point on talkback radio, council is talking about Tolling a motorway it doesn't own!!!

I don't think that will bother them (and probably why they need government approval).

From memory, the authority allowing the motorway bus lanes doesn't actually have the authority to do so... but everyone just kinda ignores the little details...

[Voltaire]

Interesting point on talkback radio, council is talking about Tolling a motorway it doesn't own!!!

" if I don't listen to them..what else have they got .....internet forums"

[swbarnett]

The one thing that could reduce congestion is for the govt to mandate staggered work start times, its crazy all the lemmings driving to work at same times every day and wondering why we have congestion.

I don't know about the mandate bit but this should certainly be encouraged.

This is exactly why, even though I commute by motorcycle, I start work at 10:00 and most days don't leave before 18:00.

[swbarnett]

I'm all for it. Tax people off the road I say. Traffic congestion is mainly due to the number of single occupancy vehicles on the road heading to work/school. Once you make it less attractive not only do you see a shift towards public transport and car pooling, but you also generate a bit of income. If people want the right to drive their 4/5 seater car all by themselves to work each day then they can pay for that privilege. I'll be one of them. If I can save 15-30 mins travel time that's worth $5 to me.

All good as long as congestion killers like motorcycles are excempt (as they are in London).

[Gremlin]

This is exactly why, even though I commute by motorcycle, I start work at 10:00 and most days don't leave before 18:00.

Barely ever in the office before midday, but very rare to leave before 1900. I get stuff done prior to leaving home, and also when I'm home at night... Helps to break up the work during the day rather than a big block.

All good as long as congestion killers like motorcycles are excempt (as they are in London).

Yeah, thing is, the Northern tunnel isn't exempt for motorcycles any more, so I really doubt they are going to show this initiative. I've never used the tunnel since, as I refuse to pay the same as a car.

Then you've got the clusterfuck that is their ability (or lack thereof) to collect tolls efficiently...

[swbarnett]

Yeah, thing is, the Northern tunnel isn't exempt for motorcycles any more, so I really doubt they are going to show this initiative. I've never used the tunnel since, as I refuse to pay the same as a car.

I think you're right. The precedent has been set.

I haven't used it since then either. Could get very interesting trying to do this from Tuakau to CBD.

[Swoop]

Interesting point on talkback radio, council is talking about Tolling a motorway it doesn't own!!!

Correct. All of those "ramp lights" were installed to keep some retard's promise to free-up the motorways. This simply shifted the traffic off of the Transit owned motorway and onto the Council owned side roads.

[Big Dog]

I think you're right. The precedent has been set.

I haven't used it since then either. Could get very interesting trying to do this from Tuakau to CBD.

If it ends up the same as overseas we will end up paying per off ramp we pass so about $40 each way.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[awa355]

Interesting point on talkback radio, council is talking about Tolling a motorway it doesn't own!!!

Who collected the tolls from the harbour bridge back in the good old days? That was the only toll bridge in the world to stop charging tolls once the building costs of the bridge was paid for, so I am lead to believe.

[swbarnett]

Motorcycles are not really much of an option for most people.

According to a study done in Belgium a 10% uptake of motorcycles will reduce congestion by 40% and a 25% uptake will eliminate it entirely.

Even if the figures are optimistic motorcycles are still a very useful tool in the fight against congestion.

[Voltaire]

According to a study done in Belgium a 10% uptake of motorcycles will reduce congestion by 40% and a 25% uptake will eliminate it entirely.

Even if the figures are optimistic motorcycles are still a very useful tool in the fight against congestion.

Ah Belgium, If Auckland was like Belgium more people would cycle to work, as it has lots of cycle routes. They also have a nice network of motorways too as well as nice choccies and cakes.
Can't say I like riding motorcycles on wet cobblestone pavers though.
Riding around Belgium in the snow brings back memories......

I suppose if 10% more people caught buses it would also hold true.