Prepare to be grumpy - Auckland toll plan

[Big Dog]

Typical terrible Attitude.

"Hey, the ramp lights are working brilliantly, the motorway is flowing much better!"
"Sure, but have you seen the mess it's making of the roads next to the on ramp?"
"Oh, those roads aren't on our dashboard as a metric we manage."

There I fixed it for you.

[Swoop]

The bridge was the responsibility of the Auckland Harbour Bridge Authority - who used Austin Gypsy vehicles as recovery vehicles at one time. At first tolls were charged both ways - 2/6 [25c] for a car which was a slightly more impressive sum of money in the early 1960s than 25c is today.[Some economist do the inflation bit and tell us what it would be today.]

I remember 20c being the toll, which was increased in the final years (25c??) prior to the toll booths being removed.

It was suggested that keeping the toll would fund a second crossing in the future, this from the same fools who decided not to finish the spaghetti junction flyovers that stood unfinished for decades...

It was also suggested that the crime on the Nth Shore increased dramatically once the booths were gone, as those scallywags from "town" would pop over the burglarise all the good stuff those posh Norver'n munkees had.

[JimO]

im just back from Singapore, China and Hong Kong and have to say they all have fantastic rapid mass transport systems but there is also traffic congestion but they also have a massive population, NZs population would fit into a suberb of Shanghai or Bejing. From what i saw all freeways are tolled. Shanghai also has the worlds fastest train i was on it doing 430 kph they only run it full noise for a hr a day as its to expensive to run and it cost something like 8 billion for 35 kilometers but the locals dont use it much as it costs to much to ride

[Voltaire]

Currently in Queensland you can be fined for:

ANY Lane splitting. Even stationary traffic.

Taking foot off the pegs for any reason - including backing into a parking spot or stretching due to tiredness.

Standing on the pegs while riding

Turning head to check traffic

Taking both hands off the handlebars - even while stationary.



Some of this utter stupidity will be repealed in February. Also Helmet standards reqiuirements.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...30-11el72.html

Brisbane:

Just as it is important that motorcyclists filter at a safe speed, motorists can help improve the safety of the rider by carefully checking their mirrors and indicating before changing lanes as the traffic starts to queue."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...#ixzz3HkREPIz6

Auckland:[QUOTE]Just as it is important that motorcyclists filter at a safe speed, motorists can help improve the safety of the rider by carefully checking their mirrors, not looking at their phone every opportunity, and not going from lane to lane in the vain hope of arriving earlier."

[Moi]

I remember 20c being the toll, which was increased in the final years (25c??) prior to the toll booths being removed.

Your comments made me do some checking - had forgotten about the rise in tolls towards the end... and the possible / probable cause of National losing the East Coast Bays by-election...

[geoffm]

The bridge was the responsibility of the Auckland Harbour Bridge Authority - who used Austin Gypsy vehicles as recovery vehicles at one time. At first tolls were charged both ways - 2/6 [25c] for a car which was a slightly more impressive sum of money in the early 1960s than 25c is today.[Some economist do the inflation bit and tell us what it would be today.] In later years tolls were charged only north bound and then abolished by Muldoon as an election bribe. Was it about the same time they did away with the tolls on the Lyttelton tunnel?

I liked travelling the vehicular ferries - the wait to board was tedious whereas the 'voyage' was wonderful, especially from Beaumont Street to Northcote as you passed under the bridge construction...

25c in 1980 is $1.22 in today's money, or $1.09 in 1981. Inflation was a bit of an issue back then. This is from the RBNZ inflation calculator http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/monetary_pol...on_calculator/
Makes the $2.20 for the tunnel a bit steep

[Swoop]

It's rather pleasing to see that the cockfaced retard "mayor" brown is looking at a revolt. Fireplaces = postponed. Toy trains = revolt.

[swbarnett]

It's rather pleasing to see that the cockfaced retard "mayor" brown is looking at a revolt. Fireplaces = postponed. Toy trains = revolt.

I must've missed somethig??

What pisses me off is that I use the Auckland southern motorway daily and I have absolutely no say in it the matter as I don't live in Auckland.

[Big Dog]

I must've missed somethig??

What pisses me off is that I use the Auckland southern motorway daily and I have absolutely no say in it the matter as I don't live in Auckland.

+1. Mind you, that fact means I only contribute via road tax, RUC, gst and general tax. Oh and via all the businesses I spend money with.

Some seem to argue I I all people should be charged because I don't pay Auckland rates yet I make an average of 11 journeys per week on the southern, about 24 a year each on the southwestern, northwestern, northern and south eastern.
With the application. Of tolls
It would make a trip to Hamilton more viable.
It would also see me buying off shore more often because although I try to buy local, especially when visiting real shops, local e retail stores are usually a combination of pricier than the shop they represent, poor value, poor service, or jus plain technically inadequate.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[FJRider]

I must've missed something??

I don't live anywhere NEAR Jaffa city .. and don't miss it at all ...

What pisses me off is that I use the Auckland southern motorway daily and I have absolutely no say in it the matter as I don't live in Auckland.

I haven't used it in over 30 years ... and have NO say in the matter either.

Having NO say in the matter ... does NOT mean having NO opinion in the matter ...

[Swoop]

It would also see me buying off shore more often because although I try to buy local, especially when visiting real shops, local e retail stores are usually a combination of pricier than the shop they represent, poor value, poor service, or jus plain technically inadequate.

It doesn't matter. The bureaucrats and servants of the public are already looking at a simple tax increase to cover any perceived losses because of all the e-commerce. Sadly all the crap NZ retailers will remain crap.