Beware of Trade Me Paypal scammers from Ghana

[inazuma1200]

Had someone try scam me for my KLX650 which i listed on trademe, all started with a text from a 4 digit number asking me to email them because they were interested in it also his emails appeared to be coming in from a different timezone searched up what it was and it was fucking Ghana lmao.


On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 11:38 PM, egsdgdg dggrdg <-----@mail.com> wrote:
Just responding to your message from this morning, the motorcycle is still available. Give me a call on 02731110** if you need to speak to me urgently.

Troy.


Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 at 3:34 PM
From: "Comfort Dias"
To: "egsdgdg dggrdg" <-----@mail.com>
Subject: Re: KLX650R Trademe listing
Thanks for responding, this is Comfort Dias. I believe my son sent you a text message to email me for the sale. i’m interested in buying this from you now off trademe for my son who is overseas(dubai). i want you to get back to me with its current condition,more pictures and your final price as i am looking for a decent bargain. I am at sea at the moment,i am an Marine biologist ( i work on tasman sea off the coast of australia ) and due to the nature of my work, phone calls is restricted. my son checked your advert and sent you a text to contact me (his mother ) via my email address .
Arrangements will be made to have this picked up from you after we have paid and all necessary registration/paperwork will be handled as well before pick up.

Regards



On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:09 AM, egsdgdg dggrdg <-----@mail.com> wrote:
The bike is in excellent condition nothing wrong with it at all, will take $4000, how are you planning on picking up the bike? i would like the registration and paperwork to be filled out at that time along with the payment.



Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 at 4:15 PM
From: "Comfort Dias"
To: "egsdgdg dggrdg" <-----@mail.com>
Subject: Re: KLX650R Trademe listing
Ok,i just wanted to make sure nothing has been left out
Thanks for the information, it was really of immense help
i am happy to purchase for my son at your asking price and do you have a PayPal account,as i will be paying with PayPal for our own protection,PayPal act as a neutral third party. it is safe,secure and reliable, and also due to the fact that i am currently offshore and i won't definitely be able to make it to the bank to wires money across to you.It is what safe and convenient for me. plz do check it out.
Regards




On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:32 AM, egsdgdg dggrdg <-----@mail.com> wrote:
Sounds good i am happy for you to use paypal but you will have to wait the 21 day payment clearing before i will let you take the motorcycle.



Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 at 4:40 PM

From: "Comfort Dias"
To: "egsdgdg dggrdg" <-----@mail.com>
Subject: Re: KLX650R Trademe listing
it is being picked up by a private dubai shipping company after you have received and confirmed the total payment in your account,the shipping agent will come for the pick up at your given time, date and location and he will handle all the necessary paper work for it as i am having it shipped abroad and they have liaisons with local nz companies in every cities,so getting to you shouldn't be a problem



On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:49 AM, egsdgdg dggrdg <-----@mail.com> wrote:
How about you just do a direct bank deposit to speed the process up so i dont have to wait 21 days for the payment to clear because i will not hand over the motorcycle until it has.



paypal payment is instant, not 21 days


i then proceeded to call him a scammer....he stopped replying after that.
cant believe people are trying this shit lmao they send the money through to paypal take the goods then reverse the transaction within 21 days BEWARE OF IT never use paypal for something like this theres no reason not to do a direct bank deposit

[mulletman]

Good post

[Ender EnZed]

they send the money through to paypal take the goods then reverse the transaction

I doubt they actually have any interest in a KLX. The next step in the scam is probably more along the lines of them paying (reversible) you an extra $1000+ for shipping which you then pay (irreversible) to their fake company.

Or maybe the nice woman from Ghana just wanted a big motard for her son.

[sil3nt]

[GrayWolf]

I doubt they actually have any interest in a KLX. The next step in the scam is probably more along the lines of them paying (reversible) you an extra $1000+ for shipping which you then pay (irreversible) to their fake company.

Or maybe the nice woman from Ghana just wanted a big motard for her son.

Yeh be really careful with Paypal, they altered there trading conditions a while ago, a European dealer (MTOG) got stung with an overseas sale.. Paypal held the money for X amount of time, goods were delivered but the buyer claimed they were not received, and got a refund. The only? way round that is using tracked postage, which can be horrendously expensive sometimes compared to the item cost.

[sugilite:Me]

Yeh be really careful with Paypal, they altered there trading conditions a while ago,

Even more than you know, as a trader I got an email from paypal last week stating they have now extended the time a customer can do a charge back to 6 months to increase "buyer" confidence". I have also read about tracked packages being delivered and signed for and paypal have still taken the customers word it had not been delivered and done a charge back on the poor merchant!

[SVboy]

Lol-I got the exact email and txt for my trademe listed bike! Yes I can just see the image that someone would accrue, cruising down the boulevards of Dubai on my GSX1200!! Must be genuine!!

[BlackSheepLogic]

You need to understand that US consumer laws regarding mail orders & consumer protection are quite different to what you are used to. Paypal, eBay, Amazon etc are required to comply to those rules and they create their terms & conditions around those US laws.

They have to be able to prove you the consumer actually received the goods as described, tracking only shows it was delivered to an address not that you received it (also keep in mind that just because tracking said delivered is not legally proof that it was delivered to that address or that the customer received it). A signed package just means someone signed for it. In the US the only sure way around a customer complaining they did not actually receive the package was to use restricted signature.

Now a lot of people remember the old EBAY where the buyer paid for insurance if they wanted it. However the insurance really was seller protection not buyer protection and this was tested though legal action which resulted in EBAY changes to comply with US law regarding consumer protection.

Now I know this is off topic from the original OP post, but this response is related to the quote below. US companies have to comply with US law and these policies are a reflection of that.

One final point on this, mis-deliviries do occur, but there is no way for a company to know if it's a fraudulent claim or not if they did not protect themselves. Restricted deliveries cost money which makes them either less competitive or reduces margins if they cover the cost. Consumers dislike them as well. The big companies take the risk up to a threshold value or when dealing with a customer where there has been prior delivery issues.

Even more than you know, as a trader I got an email from paypal last week stating they have now extended the time a customer can do a charge back to 6 months to increase "buyer" confidence". I have also read about tracked packages being delivered and signed for and paypal have still taken the customers word it had not been delivered and done a charge back on the poor merchant!

[Akzle]

http://www.419eater.com/

you gave up way too easily.

[Jase H]

So, the original text was from a 4-digit number. Are you with Spark or 2-degrees? 027... suggests Spark, but you may have ported your number If you are with either of these, that 4-digit number would relate to a text messaging-type service that folk can sign up to.

If this is the case, can you PM me the exact message you received along with the date/ time you received it.

I work in this industry. So, if someone's abusing our service I can track down the account and get rid of it. Just need a bit more detail if you can. Cheers.

[inazuma1200]

Lol-I got the exact email and txt for my trademe listed bike! Yes I can just see the image that someone would accrue, cruising down the boulevards of Dubai on my GSX1200!! Must be genuine!!

Hahahahahaha, KLX650s and GSX1200s must be worth massive dollars in dubai to go through the hassle of shipping one from the other side of the world...

[inazuma1200]

http://www.419eater.com/

you gave up way too easily.

I sent him a link to that website after he stopped replying XD, apparently west africans are quite well known for these types of scams theres even a doco on youtube about them.

[atroberts]

Just got an email from this asshole about a car I've got listed on TradeMe. Same pattern: text, then the same email about their son in dubai.

Thanks for posting everyone! Saves me a lot of wasted time.

For JaseH: I haven't got enough site involvement to send a PM, so here is the text. The number I received it from came up as '538' at 8:24 am this morning. I use Vodafone.

"i want to know if your vehicle on trademe is still available. Kindly email me on comfortdias@gmail.com as this is urgent."

[HenryDorsetCase]

lets all email him about our shit for sale. Or just shit generally

[Paulo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTFauI8INY

wire me the monies!!!!!!