"Lest we forget"

[Oscar]

Love it!
Firstly, sorry, I don't think I want to be your friend.

I'm sure I'll get over that.
Perhaps you could go back and change the thread title, as I admit that's the only bit of your drivel that I read, (at least, initially).
Whereas I can see how you might want to discuss the whys and wherefores of going to war, these thread usually revert to the old fuckwit and the P addict from down the line saying "the jews did it".

As for doing my homework, reading the shite that some of these idjuts spew forth makes my brain hurt, and the fact that you expected get any sense by starting a thread here makes you even sillier than your bloated prose would at first suggest.

[Akzle]

"the jews did it".

As for doing my homework, reading makes my brain hurt,

prove me wrong buddy. i'll give you a gold star...(on your report, that is...)

[mstriumph]

I'm sure I'll get over that.
Perhaps you could go back and change the thread title, as I admit that's the only bit of your drivel that I read, (at least, initially).
Whereas I can see how you might want to discuss the whys and wherefores of going to war, these thread usually revert to the old fuckwit and the P addict from down the line saying "the jews did it".

As for doing my homework, reading the shite that some of these idjuts spew forth makes my brain hurt, and the fact that you expected get any sense by starting a thread here makes you even sillier than your bloated prose would at first suggest.

It's the thought that you may have had to call me Ma'am, isn't it? Don't panic, the circumstances don't apply.

'Silly'? On a good day, mebbe ... mostly I can pass for normal (whatever that is)


(and I did get quite a lot of sense in this thread ... actually)

[Oscar]

prove me wrong buddy. i'll give you a gold star...(on your report, that is...)

Actually that's quite funny.

[imdying]

If you bothered to read and comprehend mstriumph's first post you would have seen that she has served time in the armed forces .. she was prepared to put her life on the line for our country ..

Can you make the same claim ???

You make it sound like some heroic thing? Soldiers are just the people society has deemed to have the least amount of value, and therefore sent off first to die

Fight for us? Fight for money and power more like it. If the world was run by commie asians, crazy sand niggers, or jew burning Germans, the world wouldn't be worse, it would just be different. To believe anything different is just ignorance stoked by the people after said money and power, with a side helping xenophobia.

No matter who is in charge, some poor section of society is going to be getting a raw deal... voluntarily paying in blood so that your team can be the deciders of who is going to get fucked over has to be the stupidest fucking concept ever. Anybody in the military, past and present, is nothing but a mug.

[Banditbandit]

prove me wrong buddy. i'll give you a gold star...

Oooo .. pick me pick me .. I wanna gold star ...


This one ...




http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-804517881.htm

[Banditbandit]

You make it sound like some heroic thing? Soldiers are just the people society has deemed to have the least amount of value, and therefore sent off first to die

Fight for us? Fight for money and power more like it. If the world was run by commie asians, crazy sand niggers, or jew burning Germans, the world wouldn't be worse, it would just be different. To believe anything different is just ignorance stoked by the people after said money and power, with a side helping xenophobia.

No matter who is in charge, some poor section of society is going to be getting a raw deal... voluntarily paying in blood so that your team can be the deciders of who is going to get fucked over has to be the stupidest fucking concept ever. Anybody in the military, past and present, is nothing but a mug.

Yeah yeah yeah .. I get all that ... ('cept the "mug" part .. I disagree ... )

She signed up ... she put on the uniform ... that means she was prepared to fight and die for our country ... heroic ??? Fuck knows ... heroic is not the point ...

How many of the armchair critics and keyboard warriors out there can say they have done that ??? Huh .. Huh .. how many of you ???

SO SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!

[Ocean1]

Tsk tsk ... can't believe you are naturally this obtuse so you must be attempting to push my buttons OK, I'll play ... your points in order:-

1. If advertising (or the more sinister brainwashing) DIDN'T work, it wouldn't still be with us ... and flourishing. I don't think you can argue that multi-nationals and politicians (to name but a few) participate in it for the general good or the benefit of humanity.

2. Don't narrow the argument - I've been talking about the conflict over the last century specifically as it impinges on my own allegiances NZ, Aus., UK.
The conversation mostly wasn't "D'you want to go overseas and possibly get irreparably damaged, all expenses paid? (until, of course, you get back - if you do - and find that there're no jobs, support or (in some instances) even a welcome for you, your family is split, your kids don't know you (or worse, aren't yours) and, IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE, those that managed NOT to go (pollies included) have fared much better than you and have a future you probably have no hope of attaining) or we might send you anyway. The bastards in charge used every tool, blandishment, slight of hand and sneaky manoeuvre to achieve their political agenda.
Didn't they.

3. Naughty I've never either implied or claimed "... that they were too young/inexperienced/uninformed/stupid to be allowed to make that choice themselves" - what I have said, and still maintain, is that their youth and vulnerability were cynically taken advantage of and their better natures exploited to serve the ends of others TO THEIR DETRIMENT. Can you seriously believe it's OK for politicians to do that?

4. OK - button pushed "aligns you firmly with those they defeated all those years ago" - You are SERIOUSLY aligning me with the Nazis? SERIOUSLY? A small, humble and heartfelt apology for that is in order to restore my previous regard for you. Because you are seriously out of line.

Amongst which the single salient point is that they chose to serve. No amount of advertising or political rhetoric can be construed as compulsion. Can it?

So, again, forget the hand wringing over what you perceive to be undue political influence, either you're for personal freedom of choice, or you're not.

Which is it?

[Kickaha]

She signed up ... she put on the uniform ... that means she was prepared to fight and die for our country ...

You don't have to sign up or put on a uniform to be prepared to do that

[98tls]

A thread titled "lest we forget" and then all this shitIf the op feels so strongly then fuck off down to your local and gob off if indeed joining the services means your prepared to sacrifice all etc then a smack in the mouth and told to shut the fuck up is merely a trifle.

[mstriumph]

Amongst which the single salient point is that they chose to serve. No amount of advertising or political rhetoric can be construed as compulsion. Can it?

So, again, forget the hand wringing over what you perceive to be undue political influence, either you're for personal freedom of choice, or you're not.

Which is it?

*waits for apology*

[mstriumph]

A thread titled "lest we forget" and then all this shitIf the op feels so strongly then fuck off down to your local and gob off if indeed joining the services means your prepared to sacrifice all etc then a smack in the mouth and told to shut the fuck up is merely a trifle.

who does your dog think you are?

[mstriumph]

Actually that's quite funny.

he knows - he's deep

[mstriumph]

....................
No matter who is in charge, some poor section of society is going to be getting a raw deal... voluntarily paying in blood so that your team can be the deciders of who is going to get fucked over has to be the stupidest fucking concept ever. ............

I love you and want you to have my babies ...

[mstriumph]

..............
She signed up ... she put on the uniform ... that means she was prepared to fight and die for our country ... heroic ??? Fuck knows ... heroic is not the point ...

.....

not at all heroic - just young, green and idealistic .... it was a long time ago.



afterthought - can I have a go on your goldstar if Akzle makes good on his offer?