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    Haven't read everyone else' replies because I wouldn't understand most of it anyway. Is your printer 32bit? I had to have a geek make our old printer work, by changing the settings to 32 from 64 at the PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    You seem quite techy, can you explain in computers for dummies level exactly what REAL advantages their are for using these other browsers.
    As all I want to do is type in a web address to browser or click on bookmarked links and the frequent sites tabs.
    99.99% of the time the computer goes to there no problems, now and then windows 'stops working' like any software etc...

    To me these other browsers are like buying a blingy set of brake calipers, on paper their probably 'better' but in the real world the average joe is not going to use the potential.
    The reason I switched to firefox after years of using IE is because of the extension engine. At the time, IE had no way third party plugins, but FF has always had this for as long as I can remember. Extensions like adblock (blocks ads), ghostery (blocks cookies / behaviour tracking), noscript (stops all scripts from executing which can be a security measure). There's an extension called DownThemAll which is a download manager for Firefox -- this is a benefit in itself so I don't have to run a third party download manager software. Then there's the productivity add-ons such as being able to undo close tabs easily, pinning tabs as an 'app' so they're always open and take up little memory, preserving my browsing sesesion so when I turn my computer off, when I come back the following day I can open up firefox and I have the same shit open as I did berfore.

    Chrome also has similar extensions. It's the fastest browser out there. It has its own built-in PDF and Flash player (so you can install it and no fucking around outside the browser to get things to play nice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakaway View Post
    The reason I switched to firefox after years of using IE is because of the extension engine. At the time, IE had no way third party plugins, but FF has always had this for as long as I can remember. Extensions like adblock (blocks ads), ghostery (blocks cookies / behaviour tracking), noscript (stops all scripts from executing which can be a security measure). There's an extension called DownThemAll which is a download manager for Firefox -- this is a benefit in itself so I don't have to run a third party download manager software. Then there's the productivity add-ons such as being able to undo close tabs easily, pinning tabs as an 'app' so they're always open and take up little memory, preserving my browsing sesesion so when I turn my computer off, when I come back the following day I can open up firefox and I have the same shit open as I did berfore.

    Chrome also has similar extensions. It's the fastest browser out there. It has its own built-in PDF and Flash player (so you can install it and no fucking around outside the browser to get things to play nice).
    I went with Opera cos it does half that stuff out of the box, no need for add-ons etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    As all I want to do is type in a web address to browser or click on bookmarked links and the frequent sites tabs.
    99.99% of the time the computer goes to there no problems, now and then windows 'stops working' like any software etc...
    On the basic level, yes, IE is going to go to web pages, you can have favourites etc. However, as per the link, it doesn't always play nicely with web pages.

    Further, I switched to Firefox when IE didn't have tabs, it caught up a few years later. Firefox can be customised in layout so on my machines I have the toolbar along the top (I still like it there) with the bookmarks to the right of it (and you can have folders of bookmarks within the bookmarks toolbar, then tabs on the 2nd row, then address bar, then web page. I find the layout of IE crappy.

    When I setup new computers for clients I put Firefox on and adblock plus, gives them some nice browsing without ads. Yep, Chrome could do that to, but I've never found it intuitive.

    I also find IE more vulnerable to crappy addons. That said, Firefox can definitely be broken with crappy addons...

    Ultimately, there are a heap of options out there, and for basic needs, yes, IE would work, but I encourage people away from it and onto Firefox, Chrome if they prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Haven't read everyone else' replies because I wouldn't understand most of it anyway. Is your printer 32bit? I had to have a geek make our old printer work, by changing the settings to 32 from 64 at the PC.
    Depending on age of printer, the printers themselves will work with most things. Just need the drivers to be 64bit or 32bit. Years ago you struggled to get 64bit drivers, but it's pretty mainstream to have 64bit compatibility.
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    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    You seem quite techy, can you explain in computers for dummies level exactly what REAL advantages their are for using these other browsers.
    jew free internetting. well, not quite. but you're 100x less likely to get hacked using something else, it will whore less system resources and it's not sucking the microsoft tit.

    Quote Originally Posted by breakaway View Post
    Chrome also has similar extensions. It's the fastest browser out there.
    no it isn't and i don't know why you'd say that.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I went with Opera cos it does half that stuff out of the box, no need for add-ons etc.
    told you so/you're welcome.
    also, download the aquarium widget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Depending on age of printer, the printers themselves will work with most things. Just need the drivers to be 64bit or 32bit. Years ago you struggled to get 64bit drivers, but it's pretty mainstream to have 64bit compatibility.
    Mibby my old laser printer is just really old, but Stevie had a right old job trying to get my nearly as old computer to send it info at 32bit rates.

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    Thanks for replies, are these plugins free or do you have to pay...?

    Wont a lot of sites not work properly if you disable cookies anyway?

    And do the4 ad blockers stop those shitty NZ herald ones that blank out the whole page when you first visit or just your garden variety malware pop ups?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Thanks for replies, are these plugins free or do you have to pay...?

    Wont a lot of sites not work properly if you disable cookies anyway?

    And do the4 ad blockers stop those shitty NZ herald ones that blank out the whole page when you first visit or just your garden variety malware pop ups?
    1) anything you have to pay for isn't worth it. microsoft, ie.

    2) yes and no. cookies provide some functionality. ("remember my log in" ie).
    it's tracking cookies and third party (usually google) that give, errr.... "customer-centric product-advisement delivery"...

    3) no. they now design it in to sites.
    personally i just block *.google.* and that takes care of most of the bullshit, embedded or no.



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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Thanks for replies, are these plugins free or do you have to pay...?
    Some add-ons might cost, others will often ask for a donation (but not mandatory). Remember that some might have given up their job to develop full time, so need income somehow...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    i started using chrome because IE wouldnt play with google maps properly.Have stuck with chrome ever since

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    After much muttering and many coffees got Firefox v31 and Flash v14 to co-habitat and behave... Might look for a slightly newer version of Firefox, might not... laptop has to last for another 4 weeks and then retirement...

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