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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    You say it like its difficult or them is some kind of implied security operations at these sites.

    Its a piece of piss to enter any site, finding someone who speaks English and wants to sign a consignment note or communicate in ways outside of the blank stoner stare is another story...
    usually the stressed looking person in the site office. Look for a white hat. The hierarchy is like uniform colours in Star Trek. White for command (equals gold shirt) Yellow or blue for technical (blue shirt) Orange for grunts (red shirt).
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    Yep, gone are the days you could sit in the concrete skip dangling off the end of the crane, 18 floors above Queen st having a spliff at lunchtime.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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    I had to get a sitesafe pass and I spend 98% of my time in the office!

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    i'm planning on getting plastered on friday arvo...
    actually. make that thursday morning, if you need any pointers, just giz a call and i'll show you how it's done.






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    make that wednesday arvo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    I had to get a sitesafe pass and I spend 98% of my time in the office!
    what a reckless cunt.
    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Yep, gone are the days you could sit in the concrete skip dangling off the end of the crane, 18 floors above Queen st having a spliff at lunchtime.
    i wish i had a story to match that, but i don't.
    unless you count 'moking up and abseiling down a 100ft cliff killing shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    counted six Worksafe punters with clip boards etc at one point all standing and looking at the crane. Not, you know, fixing it or moving it. Just looking. one was taking photos.
    and when it all goes tits up - it's the customer's fault. yay society!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    You should have seen Victoria Street when they had that crane tip a few weeks back. I counted six Worksafe punters with clip boards etc at one point all standing and looking at the crane. Not, you know, fixing it or moving it. Just looking. one was taking photos.
    Actually that's damn good, I wish the transport industry took the same approach instead of the secret squirrel approach of lets not learn from mistakes...
    Saw a good construction Meme few weeks ago:
    There are no new crane accidents, just new workers have accidents the same as the ones before them did. or something like that.
    With a proper lift plan in place and good crew a crane should never tip over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    usually the stressed looking person in the site office. Look for a white hat. The hierarchy is like uniform colours in Star Trek. White for command (equals gold shirt) Yellow or blue for technical (blue shirt) Orange for grunts (red shirt).
    Some of us pay less attention to star trek than what we do to builders fashion choices
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Yep, gone are the days you could sit in the concrete skip dangling off the end of the crane, 18 floors above Queen st having a spliff at lunchtime.
    Its all fun and games till someone zones out and forgets where they are... and splat.

    I've had several workplace whoppers that could have been serious, all of them involved ignoring protocols. Funnily enough the most minor and virtual no injury resulted in a major manufacturer having their Auckland site shut down for 24hrs due to their yard being such a mess. Of course that had nothing to do with how I hurt myself though!
    But I've fallen about 3.5m to concrete from the top of a b-train when during a brain fade moment I thought I had three hands and let go... lucky landed on my feet....
    Half running/hurrying down a steel stairwell at grainmill, feel forwards took brunt of it on shin, lucky not to break leg.
    Holding giant 100m loop of conduit so forklift could take another bite, it fell and ankle tapped me, throwing me into forklift mast, just bruises but could have been worse.

    There's a few places I hated going to in Auckland, the forklift will stop loading if you come within 6m of him, funnily enough no one gets run over there....
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Some of us pay less attention to star trek than what we do to builders fashion choices
    I watch a lot of Star Trek and I work in an office .. what else am I gonna think about ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Actually that's damn good, I wish the transport industry took the same approach instead of the secret squirrel approach of lets not learn from mistakes...
    Saw a good construction Meme few weeks ago:
    There are no new crane accidents, just new workers have accidents the same as the ones before them did. or something like that.
    With a proper lift plan in place and good crew a crane should never tip over.
    I was told that they did not have the proper plan and cones and permissions to block off a lane in Victoria St so they could, you know, do it properly. So they tried to half arse it by not extending the stabilisers all the way and parking the crane on the footpath. First lift fine but second lift was just that leeeeedle bit further.... crane goes faceplant. Boom was stopped by the wee building in front of it otherwise driver would have been looking very sick indeed.

    As it was the site was shut down for a day, so all the subs would be claiming from the head contractor, who would be passing them back to the glazing installer (Thermosash). Who will also be getting a good arse raping from Worksafe. The key question is who else apart from the driver gets a reaming. Plus of course Smith crane had two big MF cranes there to pick up the broken one. Ouchies. Luckily only financial. Bottom line is that at least five guys on the site could have been killed. driver, dogman, two up top installers, two dudes in a scissor lift five feet away, etc etc. Not to mention any of the hundred other guys on the site at any given moment.

    I am all for it actually... the safety environment I mean. Because fuck people are dumb. Some people all the time, some people some of the time. And that shit can kill you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    Its not the fines as such it is the bureaucracy
    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    ... Because fuck people are dumb. Some people all the time...
    Ahh! I see you are dealing with the same bunch of public servant scum in Wellytown that I am.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    The key question is who else apart from the driver gets a reaming. Plus of course Smith crane had two big MF cranes there to pick up the broken one. Ouchies. Luckily only financial. Bottom line is that at least five guys on the site could have been killed. driver, dogman, two up top installers, two dudes in a scissor lift five feet away, etc etc. Not to mention any of the hundred other guys on the site at any given moment.

    I am all for it actually... the safety environment I mean. Because fuck people are dumb. Some people all the time, some people some of the time. And that shit can kill you.
    This is the article I mentioned...
    http://www.heavyliftnews.com/news/26...oreseen-?cu=58

    Under NZ law every person in the vicinity who witnesses a dangerous action (in that they know that's not the proper way to do it) and fails to intervene is liable.
    There's a lot of guys that will sit back and laugh as a newbie forklift driver engineers a screw up... but that's all on cctv these days and they are all liable for $10k fines of someone is hurt.
    Eg lift someone standing on tines instead of in a cage, dude on forks is liable, forklift driver liable, anyone watching is liable that doesn't say hey stop! All equally liable too.

    BTW BBC Crane Gang is a great doco on youtube, some interesting mention of shock loads on there if a chain or strop slips on the load being lifted. Can tip a crane that is even well within its limits.
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    Somebody needs to give these dudes a few lessons in crane management .

    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

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