Oddball engines and prototypes

[J.A.W.]

Oh the shame of it. See Husa's post from last night....

Screamer - V4 2-Stroke (180 degree motor) NSR500 90-91 and then 1997- onwards
000----090----180----270----360
1&3------------2&4------------1&3

Hmmm, seems like they were on to a good thing,


care to comment?

Sure.. is a shame, if that's the best you can do.. now, try & cite a source - which shows the effect of the V-angle..

[WilDun]

Dunno what has happened here, but a little while ago it all seemed so friendly. Bit of romanticising, some interesting things, the products of lots of individual and or company efforts and hard work, zany inventions, etc.
So, fellers, can you please respect this, not try to outdo the other as to who’s correct or more correct.
Cheers

Well said Ken, the thread was a happy, easy going one till very recently, where even those with no detailed knowledge (like myself) could join in, learn and discuss things, not so now!

[Frits Overmars]

Bravo Ken.

[J.A.W.]

Well said Ken, the thread was a happy, easy going one till very recently, where even those with no detailed knowledge (like myself) could join in, learn and discuss things, not so now!

Why not? Just do it.

& to be fair W-D, you have added comments of an off-technical subject type, yourself..

If we are to be frankly open & honest here, the somewhat hostile tone which originated from a certain contributor - can be clearly seen - in verbatim script.

For myself, I'd prefer to keep discussions on a reasoned, cooly technical basis.. rather than some over-personalised, prickly ego-thrashing..

Shall we now - put the posturing in the past, & resume a decent discourse?

I am up for it..

[Voltaire]

My thoughts exactly

The Ignore Feature works really well Malcy

[WilDun]

It's the link on the quote of the post you just answered, - moderator has deleted it, (no harm done I guess, just seems to be a general tightening up on the rules since the 'upheaval' started) - it does make your post seem a little irrelavent though!

[Gremlin]

It's the link on the quote of the post you just answered, - moderator has deleted it, (no harm done I guess, just seems to be a general tightening up on the rules since the 'upheaval' started) - it does make your post seem a little irrelavent though!

I've left this one here to comment.

When you start talking about J.A.W. it's all off topic stuff, so to keep your thread clean I've moved all those posts to PD.

[malcy25]

Sure.. is a shame, if that's the best you can do.. now, try & cite a source - which shows the effect of the V-angle..

I asked that too, and the effective firing order is just that, two up, two down. Unlike a TZ750 which is 1/4 2/3 it is 1/3 and 2/4 pairing. BUT it is what it is, 180 degree.

Source: I think the photos earlier by Husa should be sufficient. Crank pins are arranged relative to the V angle, supporting this is also the period magazine references.

[malcy25]

The Ignore Feature works really well Malcy

Volty, sorry, did you say something!! (just kidding!). I have a great ignore function called work and the too many hours I'm doing at present. At least I got to use my odd ball engined car with it's 15 degree V arrangement and single cylinder head.

[Voltaire]

Volty, sorry, did you say something!! (just kidding!). I have a great ignore function called work and the too many hours I'm doing at present. At least I got to use my odd ball engined car with it's 15 degree V arrangement and single cylinder head.

Lancia..? nearest I get to an oddball engine is driving to work with a flat 4 DOHC with a blower on it ,

[Mental Trousers]

Volty, sorry, did you say something!! (just kidding!). I have a great ignore function called work and the too many hours I'm doing at present. At least I got to use my odd ball engined car with it's 15 degree V arrangement and single cylinder head.

Lancia..? nearest I get to an oddball engine is driving to work with a flat 4 DOHC with a blower on it ,

A modern-ish Audi 3.2 litre V6 I'm guessing.

[J.A.W.]

Thanks Husa for adding those ex post facto ( best if you note the addit/edit timing though) NSR 500 crankshaft pix on the previous page.
Frits has given his views on the potential benefits of 90`firing for 4cyl 2Ts, but I am sure we'd all value Wobbly's appraisal too..

[J.A.W.]

Lancia..? nearest I get to an oddball engine is driving to work with a flat 4 DOHC with a blower on it ,

You drive a Subaru - cage- to work? Tsk tsk..

Anyhow, if interested in engine firing orders, see here.. www.enginehistory.org/fo/FO.shtml

[Kickaha]

A modern-ish Audi 3.2 litre V6 I'm guessing.

I would have gone VW myself, probably all the same shit with a diferent badge anyway

[Mental Trousers]

I would have gone VW myself, probably all the same shit with a diferent badge anyway

Exactly the same shit with different badges. All VW's, Audis, Skodas and SEATs share engines while all VWs, Audis, Skodas, SEATs, Bugattis, Lambourghinis, Bentleys and Porsches share transmissions.