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    Oddball engines and prototypes

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    Hell, all set up in a flash - HUSA certainly hasn't been pissing around! - I wasn't expecting this thread to be set up right away when I suggested it in The Bucket Foundry thread earlier today. I then went off to tidy up my garage, came back and found it all done and dusted - Didn't think anybody would even have noticed my post yet! -

    I guess the upside is that at least we will know which thread we are on and (shouldn't) be talking at cross purposes (in the bucket Foundry) - the downside, it does split up another good thread (but probably will avoid posters fighting to talk over other posters on seperate subjects.) - time will tell. - good luck!

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    Was that Yeoman ever finished?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Was that Yeoman ever finished?
    Don't think so, Grumph kinds of knows his son in passing, it might have been lost in the quake too.

    Alpha disk valve semi Viliers Greeves based in a manner of speaking but breathed via the crank webs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Don't think so, Grumph kinds of knows his son in passing, it might have been lost in the quake too.
    Damn shame, seems like an interesting concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unstuck View Post
    Damn shame, seems like an interesting concept.
    Yes very interesting......might not have been as efficient straight of the bat but very interesting concept.

    Bit of a mixed bag
    The DKW is a triple that predates the NS500 by about 30 years also had a very interesting lab seal set up.

    The supermono Duck very tasty and the balancer piston set up.
    The AJS porcupine designed as a supercharged engine the fins on its head gave its name they had a high silver content for conductivity.

    The BSA MC1 bsa management refused to let it race when designer Hele failed to guarantee it would 100% win in its first outing. It was a radial 4 valve in about 1954.
    OH there was a Special experimental Manx in there also
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    The Koing Yes that one, designed as a outboard developed By A unknown Kiwi Kim Newcombe that so nearly won the world 500cc championship he tragically died and yet still managed to finish second.
    A boxer four with shared disk valves. Plus a flying web crankshaft.
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    Split singles.
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    The Christenson

    The DKW piston supercharged split single.

    The binks mousetrap

    The Wal Philips injector
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    Anzani set up with disk inlet

    The Nissan super turbo March engine

    An odd v2v8

    The supemono balancer set but with the balancer rod
    The BMW stirrup balancer
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    More alpha and Anzani

    The Clarke engine
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    The barker headless.
    four pistons four carbs.
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    108220_8lo.jpgnot a bike engine but imagine if the car guys had got them sorted a engine that will run on anything that will burn, and the engine note

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    The yanks had a series of prototype turbine powered cars out on evaluation in the 60's the tacho scared the willies out of the consumers, I guess the mileage would have been atrocious as well.
    I can't remember what it was..googles
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car

    The Chrysler Turbine Car was the first and only consumer test ever conducted of gas turbine-powered cars. Of the total 55 units built (5 prototypes and 50 "production" cars), most were scrapped at the end of a trial period, with only nine remaining in museums and private collections. Though Chrysler's turbine engine project was terminated in 1977, the Turbine Car was the high point of a three decade project to perfect the engine for practical use.

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    Engine compartment of a Chrysler 1963 Turbine car
    The fourth-generation Chrysler turbine engine runs at up to 44,500 revolutions per minute, according to the owner's manual,[3] and could operate using diesel fuel, unleaded gasoline, kerosene, JP-4 jet fuel, and even vegetable oil. The engine can run on virtually anything with combustible properties and "Chrysler claimed the turbine could gulp everything from peanut oil to Chanel No. 5."[4] No air/fuel adjustments are required to switch from one fuel type to another and the only evidence of which fuel was used is the odor of the exhaust.

    The engine has just 1/5 of the moving parts of a traditional piston-based internal combustion engine (60 rather than 300).[5] The turbine spins on simple sleeve bearings for vibration-free running. Its simplicity offers the potential for long life, and because no combustion contaminants enter engine oil, no oil changes are considered necessary. The 1963 Turbine's engine generated 130 brake horsepower (97 kW; 132 PS) and an instant 425 pound force-feet (576 Nm) of torque at stall speed, making it good for 0 to 60 mph (0 to 97 km/h) in 12 seconds at an ambient temperature of 85 F (29 C)—it can sprint quicker if the ambient air was cooler and denser.

    The lack of many moving parts and the lack of liquid coolant eases maintenance, while the exhaust does not contain carbon monoxide, unburned carbon, or raw hydrocarbons. Nevertheless, the turbine generates nitrogen oxides and the challenge of limiting them proved an ongoing problem throughout development.

    The power turbine is connected, without a torque converter, through a gear reduction unit to an only moderately modified TorqueFlite automatic transmission. The flow of the combustion gases between the gas generator and free power turbine provides the same functionality as a torque converter but without using a conventional liquid medium. Twin rotating recuperators transfer exhaust heat to the inlet air, greatly improving fuel economy. Varying stator blades prevent excessive top end speeds, and provide engine braking on deceleration.

    Throttle lag and exhaust gas temperatures at idle plague early models; Chrysler was able to remedy or mitigate these to some degree. Acceleration lag, however, remains a problem, and fuel consumption is excessive. Acceleration is outstanding provided the turbine is spun up (by applying power) prior to releasing the brakes. Otherwise it is mediocre. The Turbine Car also features a fully stainless steel exhaust system, the exits of which are flat in cross section. This was intended to spread the exhaust gases thinly and thus cool them further, in order to allow the vehicle to stand in traffic without risking damage to following traffic. The combustor, or burner, is somewhat primitive by the standards of modern turbojet engines. A single reverse-flow canister featuring a more-or-less standard spark plug for ignition is employed. Had the engine been further developed, annular combustion chambers along with a second power turbine might have improved power and economy even more. The transmission has "idle" instead of "neutral".[6]

    The turbine car has some operational and aesthetic drawbacks. The car sounds like a giant vacuum cleaner, which was unexpected to consumers who were more familiar with the sound of a large American V8. That said, some observers admired the sound. High altitudes also cause problems for the combined starter-generator. Additionally, failing to follow the correct start-up procedure will cause the engine to stall; some drivers thought they could warm up the engine similar to the way they did with a gasoline engine. They would press the accelerator pedal to the floor before the engine had reached proper temperature. Instead of warming the engine, the excess fuel slowed the turbine down and resulted in the opposite of the desired effect. Doing this, however, did not do any permanent damage to the engine. In fact, it was possible to apply full throttle immediately after starting the engine without much fear of excessive wear. The engines were remarkably durable considering how fragile turbine engines are when compared to internal combustion piston engines. Troubles were remarkably few for such a bold experiment. It is not known how many testers made the mistake of using the leaded pump gas of the era; the tetraethyl lead leaves debilitating deposits within the engine. It was the one flammable liquid Chrysler recommended not be used; it was also by far the easiest fuel to obtain. Even so, more than 1.1 million test miles were accumulated by the 50 cars given to the public, and operational downtime stood at only 4%.
    Thanks willythekid who sent me tis video
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